P64 LED Addressing Issues

What acutal addresses are you trying to assign them. If you give me the numbers I will do the math for you.

Thanks for the offer....ended up that some of my channels are not working on my Compu 2006. Anyone every heard of that? Specifically 160-about 180 would respond...at 250 they work again.

WTH... That doesn't sound right... I think thats more of an issue for Jingles...

hey. I dont think it is possible to ha e bad channels on compu live. They are either being used or not. do you have anything addressed at these other channels? Go through your set up for me step by step including how many LEDs how many channels they use and how they are cabled. Also are you terminating the last fixture in the line?how long is your cable run? And are you using DMX cable and not mic cable? Let me know, sincerely,

I think his fixtures addressing 160-180 aren't set up properly, so he's created a null zone for himself as a result. I bet it's just a DIP switch setting.

DMX is not going to go partially bad. It's sort of an all or nothing load of fun.

OK, SO, here is what I have and what is happening.

Compu 2006 DMX controller in the back of house, cable run about 150' to stage right-5 LED Pars (DMX 90-120?)then 10' to front of stage through 4 LED Pars(250-270?)then 10' to stage left through 5 LED Pars (160-180?)...Finally 200-300' to the ceiling 2 ADJ Performance Scans through 2 fantasy's, then two more Performance Scans(27-50ish)

When I hook everything up the third set of LED Pars does a weird random flicker. Everything is addressed correctly...I have triple checked. If I end the chain after all the pars(before it runs to the ceiling), everything works great(except the fixtures on the ceiling, of course).

Yes I have a terminator on the last Performance Scan, No not mic cables (at least not on any run over 18 inches)

Again, any ideas???

Thanks!

You have a long run have you considered getting a opto splitter? it will actually boost the DMX signal. i think that may be the problem here. elation has those Opto Splitters at a great price. here is a link.
OPTO BRANCH 4 remember that is the retail price. sincerely,

I appreciate your response. How long is too long for a DMX run? Is there a way to test if my signal is not strong enough?

The last lights in the chain (performance scans and fantasys) work ok..just the LED Pars in the middle of the chain.

Sorry for more questions...as with almost everyone $$$ is always an issue. Want to avoid unnecessary spending if I can.

true. too long i dont know but a length like yours it is ALWAYS recommended to have a opto branch 4 for any cable run over 100 feet. ill try to find out if u can test ur signal. probably a DMX tester. i know ADJ sold one a while ago but i dont know about now. sincerely,

I routinely ran DMX down a 200-foot XLR cable(a pair in my whip) that went as follows:

Short XLR with right angle XLR plug OUT from my DMX operator(needed the clearance, had to go right angle) into a XLR M to 1/4" balanced. Into a patch panel, across a balanced patch cable into another patch panel, which in turn was loaded onto the whip. Hit channel 56 on the whip and on the stage box, a turn-around XLR cable I made for another application(since discontinued) and then onto more XLR cable for going to lights. Worked great.

No more. All DMX cabling. 200foot run right off the DMX Operator to NEAR the stage box, then tied in with additional DMX cabling.

Personally, it works, it works great and I like it. BUT, agreeing with Jingles, I personally also feel that "holy crap, I'm pushing this signal down a LOT of cable" and honestly, 100-foot is really my threshhold of pain where I'd want something in there. But, what I'm going to end up doing is getting an OptoSplitter at the stage side to break it out. I have follow spots and a front and back set of lights. Should clean up cabling issues as well.

Instead of a long serial run now, split yours up at logical points to avoid issues. And since the Optosplitter will basically clean up your DMX signal, that gives you a "fresh signal" to send out again.

Make sure you're using DMX cabling(please!!) and use a terminator. Sounds like you got this.

BTW: a lighting company I know uses a 350-foot cable for events. Never had a problem.

Sometimes we got to spend. I am already planning my next purchases, and lighting is in that budget, and yes, the optosplitter is probably gonna be in there as well.

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Originally posted by CGBF:
I am trying to address 4 P64 LEDs that we have. All the other ADJ lights came with a helpful addressing manual that seemed to work. Some thing like this.

Dip-switches in DMX mode: This unit uses dip switches to assign a
DMX address. Each dip switch represents a binary value.
Dip Switch 1 address equals 1
Dip Switch 2 address equals 2
Dip Switch 3 address equals 4
Dip Switch 4 address equals 8
Dip Switch 5 address equals 16
Dip Switch 6 address equals 32
Dip Switch 7 address equals 64
Dip Switch 8 address equals 128
Dip Switch 9 address equals 256
Dipswitches 10, 11, and 12 - Some units omit dipswitch 10, and most
units do not have dipswitches 11 and 12. When a unit does include

If these work the same then I have bigger problems.

Ideas?

Just wondering about this as well. If dipswitch #1 is used to determine DMX mode- how would one address the fixture? Is it 2-9 and ignoring 10?

It really depends on the light itself what the DIP switches mean.

Looking at my Color Fusions, DIP 1 and 10 UP are Master mode, while the slaves also use DIP 1 up but DIP 10 down, and using switches 3 and 4 for identifying which head they are to the slave.
At the same time, in DMX mode, DIP 1 does indicate 0/1, thus signifying even/odd numbers in DMX addressing.

Other lights, there is a clear "DMX mode toggle) switch.

There is no rule or standard, although in an analog-type addressing(using DIP switches), switches 1-9 are typically used for addressing and with the same values.

It is necessary to read your owner's manuals. It is also necessary to perhaps print the entire manual or pages and keep them with you in what I call a "show binder". This binder contains any elements I consider "critical" for any gear I have. Since audio is more "standardized", I don't find myself needing much literature for my audio rig outside my RTA and console, just for safety. With lights, I carry the pages for all my fixtures that pertain to addressing, DMX charts and a few other things. I also keep a few pages of instruction for my DMX Operator in regards to programming mode. But, if you want to make your own cheat sheets to carry around, that would be great too. In fact, since you wrote it yourself, it would serve two purposes: hammer it into your head mode AND provide reference. Personally, having that reference handy is what I need. I got a lot of stuff to deal with at shows and the less I have to memorize, the better.

Just read your manuals. Most of the time they'll tell you everything you need to know. Often, the stuff left out of manuals is the stuff you learn by using your fixtures.

I can't remember off the top of my head...but I think that for the ADJ P64 LED's 1=1, 2=2, 3=4, 4=8, etc. and 10 needs to be on for DMX as opposed to slave/master.

When I get to work on Monday and correct this if I am wrong.

cgbf I believe you are correct. I think dip 10 needs to be up for dmx mode. I'll take a look around to confirm. Sincerely,

Correction to my previous post...dip switch 10 should be off for DMX. (I looked at my lights today). Use the previous example for addressing lights. 1=1, 2=2, 3=4, 4=8, 5=16, etc.

Thanks will try tomorrow!
This manual is slightly confusing regarding DMX mode- it mentions it 3 times, yet does not definitively say "switch 10 must be off". You can guess it, by reading the other 2 modes- but oh well.

I totally don't get this address thing.. Maybe someone can help me out. I have 8 Par64 LED and Elation DMX.. I hook it all up.. I addressed as Dip1, Dip2, Dip1&2, Dip3. for 4 Par64LED cans.. would this be how to use 4 cans? the 1st light just goes crazy. does what it wants with all buttons OFF and sliders down on controller.. I'm totally lost?

what channel mode are you wanting to run them in?I believe you have the option of running them in 3,6 or 7 channel mode. Read the user manual them up in the different modes. Also what elation controller? Welcome to the forums. Sincerely,

also do you have the led pro? Or just p64LED? Let me know sincerely,

The P64 LED is a 6 channel light. When addressing, you are setting the first address of the 6. So you would need to address them as 1, 7, 13, etc.

Thats my two cents.

yes but since he is using a dmx controller he may need to block if he doesnt want mulitple fixtures on one fixture button. My two watts. LOL sincerely,

Here's what I bought..http://www.musiciansfriend.com/product/American-DJ-PAR64-LED-Package-with-Free-DMX-Controller?sku=801416


I have only 4 right now.. other 4 I will have next week on order

I don't have a clue what i'm doing...with programming

I would like to have 2 cans working together, 1 on each side of stage.. or have all 8 doing same thing..

maybe someone could call me after 8 pm central. Monday.. tell me what to do.. LOL.. feel like an idiot.. LOL

815.712.6354

well either I can call you or you can call me at the adj or elation hotline. Ask for James or jingles. They all know me there. What controller do you have?

ok u got the dmx operator. i can help u. no prob. ill try giving u a call at 8pm. i am in CT time also. i am in wausau. sincerely,

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