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Your unit has to be Master unit!

So please make sure that master is selected.



After that please select your favourite show:



SHND: SH 0 - 12 - Show modes 0-12 (Factory programs). You can run show mode with sound active mode off or on.

1. Tap the MENU button until “ShNd” is displayed, press ENTER.

2. “Sh X” will now be displayed, “X” representing a number between 0-12. Programs 1-12 are factory programs, while “Sh 0” is random mode. Press the UP or DOWN buttons to find your desired show and press the ENTER, then press and hold the MENU button for at least 3 seconds to confirm.



Like shown in the manual it doesn´t matter if sound active is on or off.



If it doesn´t work, please contact your dealer as soon as possible to repair/exchange the unit.
You cant run master/slave in the auto mode?

We are a band and use the comscans. But, the sound mode is way too sensitive for live bands. When we play a ballad in the sound mode the lights are still going crazy.

So, I want to run Master/slave in the auto mode and control it with a single UC3 controller.

It doesnt seem to work. I choose one of the 12 shows & it just remains still...no movement. PLEASE HELP !!!
Well, I got some ideas.

First, I'm sure you've played with sensitivity settings. Obviously that's a no-go. I get ya. They work off low notes, and you get kick, bass, some undertones from guitar, some vocal and other percussives, and well, yeah, it's gonna cause problems.

Short of that, are you perhaps considering software control? Maybe having MyDMX running some sweeps or something might be more to your liking? This gives you some movement, but at the same time you retain control.


Forgive my ignorance on these fixtures. They aren't something I have.
The point being is:
If run Sound/light these effects are mad, way too fast. If Sound/light is switched off, the scanners do not scan and there is no sensitivity adjustment to use. So either the manual is wrong, but i doubt that as ADJ have said they should work without sound/light switched on.
A lot of lights with sound active modes behave mad/fast when in sound active mode. Sound sensitivity refers to how much or little sound it takes to trigger a sound active trigger, not speed. There would need to be a secondary control for speed.

I don't know exactly how they operate or what the chipset instructions are, but I bet it's something like running a random number subroutine with a limit of 0-255, and once a pan and/or tilt value has been generated, once the trigger is activated, it moves to that position and generates a new number combination for the next move

I'd say the best way to control this is to use some sort of software or hardware controller. Using MyDMX, you can generate your own patterns and control speed, but you lose the sound active capability UNLESS this light has sound active in the DMX traits. Of course, if you throw the fixture into sound active via DMX, you bring up the same issue again. Using MyDMX you lose any sort of "chase to sound" functionality, but that's a limitation of MyDMX, which for me hasn't been an issue. You do have to "hard code" the time between steps and/or fades, but they can all be adjusted whenever you want.

Using a hardware controller like a DMX Operator, you can create single-step scenes, then use that to build chases. You can then have the DMX Operator's sound to chase function to trigger your scenes. You can also control the time it takes to get from scene to scene, which can slow your Comscans down. The upside is you get a sound-active type effect, but with the speed you want within reasonable range. It's hard to dial in the time exactly, but you should be able to get sufficient results rather easily.

Now, if you turn sound active OFF, then of course the scanners are not going to scan unless 1 of 2 things happen:
1: If these support some sort of internal pre-programmed(or user programmable) pattern being run, they can work without the assistance of control. Chances are, in a master/slave situation, assigning one as a master should quickly and easily give you a show. If you have pan and/or tilt reverse options, that gives you more to work with.
2: DMX control via software or hardware, allowing you to have control over your fixtures as you see fit.

I do have many sound active fixtures. For example, I have many high-tech FX(all ADJ), and it really depends what is what. My scanner-type fixtures(Electra, Rover, Barrel Flex, Reflex) all move at what I consider smooth but medium speeds. These work fine for me and I have no issues or complaints. My other sound active fixtures are the Mystic, Vertigo, Trilogy and Double Twist, and since these are not moving-type lights, the sound active that they do perform is more than adequate for my needs. On the "higher" end of things, I still don't have anything like a ComScan, but I do have the 64 LED Pro, Mega Bar 50 and Mega Panel units, soon to be joined with more ADJ and Elation LED fixtures. Of what I have now, they all support sound active via DMX, as well as having a sensitivity selection. For how I use them, again, I've got no complaints. Between the macro scrolling and sound active funtions, I get a lot of instant color craziness quickly and easily. My Chauvet fixtures(DMX 500 and Q-Spot 150) both also support sound active modes, but both also have speed control adjustments. I like the DMX500's color wheel spin function(that's all I get in sound active), and the Q-Spot's random movement that I can couple with controlled color wheel spinning.

Personally speaking, in the direction I'm moving these days with software control and the ability to program, coupled with the types of shows I do, I don't really want an instant show type of unit.

I think your ComScans are working properly, especially since you state a friend has the same issue. I think it may be time to get yourself into a controller environment.
Thanks to everyone for these suggestions.

DMX is certainly an option to make these work. BUT my point is that the unit SHOULD work with sound off in "show" mode(without DMX)according to the manual and their advertized functions- "3 Operating Modes - Sound Active, Show Mode, and DMX Control".

The lights do NOT have sound sensitivity adjustment so running them in sound isnt really an option for a live band.

I undertand that running them in DMX can solve my problem. But, running a light show while singing & playing a guitar isnt what I want to do. I want the lights to do the work for me.

I want to run them master/slave in show mode using the UC3 controller. Im hoping that ADJ can reply with a definitive response on how to make this work....or even the response- "the lights wont do that".
I posted their respose earlier, they say they should work with sound off.
Your unit has to be Master unit!

So please make sure that master is selected.



After that please select your favourite show:



SHND: SH 0 - 12 - Show modes 0-12 (Factory programs). You can run show mode with sound active mode off or on.

1. Tap the MENU button until “ShNd” is displayed, press ENTER.

2. “Sh X” will now be displayed, “X” representing a number between 0-12. Programs 1-12 are factory programs, while “Sh 0” is random mode. Press the UP or DOWN buttons to find your desired show and press the ENTER, then press and hold the MENU button for at least 3 seconds to confirm.



Like shown in the manual it doesn´t matter if sound active is on or off.



If it doesn´t work, please contact your dealer as soon as possible to repair/exchange the unit.
Please identify where Im going wrong ...

1) Link both lights via provided DMX cable.


2) Set first light to Master.


3) set second light to Slave 1.


4) Connect UC3 controller to master light


4) On Master light menu turn sound off.


5) Turn UC3 contoller "mode" to LED "on (chase)


6) Scroll through the UC3 controller "function" button ( shows 1-12)

..... Nothing. No movement from the lights.
I will call the support line , however this cant be the correct answer.

The manual indicates you can run SHOW MODE with sound off or on , AND CHOOSE 1 of 12 show programs . (see below)

Now they claim its just a color changer ?

There are NOT 12 differnt colors !!!!

I bought these lights based on the advertized functions.

1) "The Comscan LED has three operating modes; sound active mode, show mode and DMX control."

2) "Show mode -
Choose 1 of 12 show modes to run."

SHND: SH 0 - 12 - Show modes 0-12 (Factory programs). You can run show mode with sound active mode off or on.1. Tap the MENU button until “ShNd” is displayed, press ENTER.
“Sh X” will now be displayed, “X” representing a number between 0-12. Programs 1-12 are factory programs, while “Sh 0” is random mode. Press the UP or DOWN buttons to find your desired show and press the ENTER."


I find it hard to believe that the ADJ factory preset "shows" they advertized were intended to merely mean a "color changer".
We seem to be getting some different information from the ADJ service team. I received the response below that the show mode with sound off should work when you choose 1 of 12 auto programmed shows. I will call them on Monday to see if we can find the answer.

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Hello,
You are doing everything correctly, so it should work. I am not sure what is going on, so if you can please give me a call on the phone number provided below and I will try to assist you over the phone. Thank you very much.

Customer Support

American DJ Group Of Companies
Shame there is no UK support.
As is always the case, you find out how good a company is when things go wrong, i.e support. I will hold off buying more ADJ lights untill this is sorted. Most other companies/dealers i buy from will give a full refund or replace, cant replace as all appear to be the same.
I am working on a solution to run the COMSCAN in sound active mode via DMX. Anyone interested? Basically this is a DMX interface that emulates the UC3 controller (the COMSCAN sees it as a UC3). This interface will work with many ADJ fixtures that do not offer sound active mode via DMX (ADJ really missed the mark with this limitation).

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