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Hello,

I want to add (4) moving heads to my set up (2 now and 2 in a few months). I currently have (4) Par 64 LED Pro's and (4) Punch Pro LED's...

There are way too many choices out there and I don't know which ones will match up brightness wise! These will be used for a band on stage...I don't want them to completely overpower what I have, but I do want them to be able to cut through convincingly!

Thanks for your advice!
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I do like the price of the non-pro's, but not sure if they are bright enough? I couldn't find the lux rating on my pars or my punch lights. Do you know what they are?

On that same thought, is it advisable to go with a brighter moving head as compared to par/punch lights so the moving heads are more visible (cutting through my current lights)?
So without being able to match up the lux, do you feel the standard Vizi would suffice since my other lighting is not "pro"? Or do I need to go with the pro for my moving heads to accomplish my goals?

BTW, I do have the 64B LED PRO pars, and the Punch LED PRO. Both Pro in he title yet no Lux. Not sure what that's about.

Koop
Vizi Pro is as follows
36,640 @ 1m
9120 @ 2m
3923 @ 3m

Vizi LED Spot is as follows
14,770 @ 1m
3113 @ 2m
1348 @ 3m

So the pro is more than twice as bright.

Too see what the regular Vizi looks like, check out my YouTube Channel I have a ton of events on their using the vizi's, including choral banquets, Weddings, teen parties, and comparisons to discharge fixtures.
Thanks, Stevie Ray.

Those Vizi LED Spots look pretty solid. I wish I could audition them with my own set up to ensure that everything "plays well" together!

I think I'll pick up a pair of these and see how it all works out...if all goes well, I'll add a couple more to the mix.

I do have a question about my 64B lights....what's the purpose of the flimsy little insert that clips onto the front of the light? I kept them, but never use them...I figured they were for gobos????
Well, theoretically, anything in front of the light CAN affect the light passing through it.

Having said that, let me just share my observations. Having a gel on the light does seem to protect the bulb. This is especially true on Par38's, where it's basically just a can with a bulb right at the front. Par56's and Par64s, especially the type mostly sold by ADJ, use some sort of bulb in the back in front of a reflector, so something has to get way in there before something bad happens. These better Par56's with the sealed beam bulb or whatever the heck that is, tends to be further up in the can, but is usually far enough away from danger.

I find on my Par38's, despite careless crew, I break fewer bulbs with the gels IN. OK, none. Of course, a determined crew can do a LOT(including bad stuff). I mean, where there's a will, there's a way. Your experiences may vary. I found getting rid of crew cheaper and easier. When you deal with a bunch of bozos who break half your bulbs, then clam up because they don't want you to be mad, then I show up at the next show with not enough working lights, well guess what? I get mad! I wish I knew I had to replace bulbs. Then they get mad at me for sending them out to get replacement bulb, then they get mad at me for getting mad at them for taking 6 hours to do a 20 minute task, AND not coming back with replacement bulbs(but spent all my money) and now the gig is over...

I think the best suggestion is to use carry cases of some sort. Arriba makes these Par64 bags. You can put 8 Par38's on it and it will still fit the bag, but it's tight. These cases will protect your lights. Then if you want clear gels, then so be it. Since my Par38's are incandescent, I have them gel'ed anyways.

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