Utopia 250S intelligent scanner

well i really don't know much about the light. but i think it was discontinued.

I think the have a duty cycle and i couldnt have that from an intel.

The Scan Tron would be your best bet. The Scan Tron offers separate color and gobo wheels and a removable mirror head for around the same price that the Utopia 250s sold for.

Yeah, I'm pretty sure it was the duty cycle. Definately a no-no for scanners. Like useffects said, check out the new Scan Tron.

Thanks guys for the help. Not sure what you meant by duty cycle but i'll check out the Scan Tron.

That means that every 30 minutes of operation, the Utopias need to be turned off for 5 minutes to cool down.

Oh, that sucks. I'm glad you warned me.

Just to keep things in perspective. Any lighting fixture with a quartz lamp needs a duty cycle for fixture and lamp life. We (American DJ) are honest about it. The heat generated could harm the electronics and burn the wires and components inside. If highly sofiscitated cooling systems were in the "affordable" fixtures they would no longer be affordable.
Thanks!

I have noticed that some lighting manufacturers manuals state that you should not have the effect turned on for more than 15 minutes at a time. That makes sense to me and why would I want any effect (other than par-cans) on for that amount of time? My light show is tailored to be song-specific so the show changes at every new song. Having a wide variety of lighting effects helps a lot. Keep 'em spinnin'!! -Ken-

That's what DMX is for.

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Any lighting fixture with a quartz lamp needs a duty cycle for fixture and lamp life.

I'm sorry mr. master dj. I believe you ARE VERY VERY VERY WRONG!

Some companies have a duty and some get the booty.


M A R T I N halogen or quartz lighting for the most part does not have any of a such cycle needed!
thats just one of many many many companies that DO NOT NEED A DUTY WITH THESE LAMPS.
the reason is simple, bigger fans, better air flow threw the light, items placed in the right place inside the fixture, larger size cases. this all together some might call quality. I call it research and development

Please Stick to dj'ing before you make wrong statements on the board, remember just because your a mod doesnt mean you know what your talking about

what he was saying is that the quartz bulbs get very hot, so that normally requires a duty cycle. He also mentioned that that would not be nccassary with expensive cooling systems. I have no doubt that m a r t i n has these systems, and that is why they are so much more expensive

A note to Billy D,
As I mentioned we are honest about the realistic capabilities of our "Affordable & Reliable" products. I do know what I'm talking about and have been instrumental in designing many of our lighting fixtures. There are several issues that go far beyond just duty cycle. Which include �people just get tired� of the same light going on for hours. This is the number 1 reason clubs (and mobile DJ�s) have many different fixtures and effects. With that in mind, most quartz lamps have a very short life span, so why use up the hours when people attending a function or club don't really want the fixture on continuously anyway? Also keep in mind I did mention that certain fixtures could be built to stay on continuously, at a cost that we feel wouldn�t justify the price for the effective use of the product.
There are many choices and options in the market place and each person has to decide what's best for their pocket book and use of any particular product. (Return on Investment) If burning a fixture for hours fits a perticular need we have many products between American DJ and Elation that fulfill that requirement.
Thanks

Ok billy d

Master Dj Writes

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Any lighting fixture with a quartz lamp needs a duty cycle for fixture and lamp life.

Then he also goes on to say

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If highly sofiscitated cooling systems were in the "affordable" fixtures they would no longer be affordable.

Please read carefuly before you go saying some one is so entirly wrong.

i believe i remember hearing that Master DJ is the vice president of American DJ, btw, which automatically gets my respect, and who are u again Billy D???

i'm not going to argue about light cases, and differnt bulbs on a form for somebody looking to buy a Utipoia Scanner...Maybe your right, maybe Master DJ is right, or maybe your both wrong...

You can twist peoples words any way you want.

What Master DJ is trying to say, is it would cost more for ADJ to put a cooling system in the light.

When he said

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Any lighting fixture with a quartz lamp needs a duty cycle for fixture and lamp life.

I dont think he ment to be interpreted that way, or his next statement wouldnt have been.

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If highly sofiscitated cooling systems were in the "affordable" fixtures they would no longer be affordable.

He was refering to these cooling systems as a way to cool quartz lamps, and not have a duty cycle.

I dont think any thing is "wrong" with master djs statement, you are just misinterpreting.

I dont know what background you have Billy D, but you need to chill.

I am closing this topic it has strayed to far