Traktor Pro 2.03 update with build in VMS4 map!!! SWEET!!

something new to control sample deck and loop recorder?
thx

Have been macking around with this mapping for a few days now but can't figure out how the sample decks or loop recorder works on this map so I mapped the sample decks to my laptop num pad which is not a biggie to me.

Finally, someone who's satisfied about a new mapping. Please, Can you mail/upload me your tsi/update with that mapped sample deck to your keyboard stuff? thanks.battlestation@walla.com

@ Patrick >> check you mailbox

Thanks for your email, i'll check it out!

Can you send me that update as well?

Cheers
djslipside
djslipside@gmail.com

hello, Can you send me the tsi map with that mapped sample deck ?please, I need that update , thanks. My email is manriqueruiz@yahoo.es

Hy I upgraded to traktor 2.0.3. I setup with 2 Semple decks but I can not control them. are not mapped? there will never be a mapping with sample and loop recorder deck? please help me thanks

@ MaNuEl..I mapped the sample slots to the num pad of my lappie to trigger which sample slots to play.Thats all I need really. To play/control/add effects etc to deck C & D just pressing the pause button will trigger functions for these deck. Pressing pause button again will change back to deck A & B with their functionatily. Works great for me.

Happy DJing!

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Originally posted by Jammerizer:
@ MaNuEl..I mapped the sample slots to the num pad of my lappie to trigger which sample slots to play.Thats all I need really. To play/control/add effects etc to deck C & D just pressing the pause button will trigger functions for these deck. Pressing pause button again will change back to deck A & B with their functionatily. Works great for me.

Happy DJing!

Hey, is it possible you can post how you did this? As I am terrible at mapping.... Thanks!

Hey you guys, I'm a brand new VMS4 owner and I have a problem with my cue buttons that I need help with. I've been talking to American Audio's tech support guys and we've reached a point where I probably need to bring my lame problem here.

The tech support guy who was helping me did a nice job, as far as I'm concerned. Granted, he wasn't able to fix my problem, but he did narrow down what it probably is AND he was quick and responsive. Kudos to American Audio for that. Anyway, below is a transcript of what I've already been through...I was hoping that somebody who has some decent insight into Traktor might be able to bail me out. I'd really like to get my money's worth here.

So, lead off with:
To whom it may concern,

I purchased my VMS4 roughly three weeks ago.
I have installed the firmware update 3.11.
I am attempting to use my VMS4 with Traktor ScratchPro 2.03 making use of the VMS4 midi mapping that ships with v2.03.
I have not attempted to change my midi map in any way.
I am aware of the cue/master mix knob and the headphone gain/volume knob and their proper functions.

If I have a track in one of Traktor's virtual decks and that track is being piped (via the USB cable) to my VMS prior to heading out to the mixer, I can hear audio and EQ it. All the buttons on my VMS4 that I have so far tested appear to be working properly except for the four channel cue buttons directly above the midilog channel faders.

When I press the channel cue button for any one of my four midilog channels, the cue/headphone icon within Traktor lights up which indicates to me that as far as Traktor is concerned, I am correctly attempting to preview a track's audio without allowing the audio to be heard outside my headphones.

The trouble is that I can't hear anything through my headphones UNLESS the midilog channel's fader and the master output volume are on and sending audio out to the mixer.

Pressing the cue button does NOT mute that signal.

Pressing the cue buttons should result in the audio signal being routed ONLY to my headphones and sounding in my ears with a loudness that I control with my cue volume/gain knob. This does not happen. Even if the midilog fader and the master output volume are zero, I should still be able to hear the signal in my headphones as long as a track is playing. This does not happen.

How should I go about fixing this problem?

respectfully,

xxxxxx

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Hello xxxxxx
Thank you for contacting American DJ Support.
 
I am sorry to hear that you're experiencing an issue with the VMS4. Please make sure that the CUE MIX knob is turned over to the CUE side and not MASTER.
 
When turned to CUE, the VMS4 will route the audio from the activated CUE channels and will continue to provide audio to your headphones regardless of where the cross fader is set to.  
 
When turned to MASTER, it will route the same audio that you hear coming from your speakers. This means that the cross fader and channel faders will affect the audio in the headphones as well.
 
Hope this helps
 
Best Regards,
 
yyyyyyyy
Customer Support Supervisor

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Thanks for getting back to me, yyyyy. I appreciate the promptness of your response.

The response wasn't helpful though. Sorry. You told me how the cue mix knob is supposed to work which I already knew because I actually read my manual like I was supposed to before contacting you guys.

Pressing the cue buttons above the midilog channel does not cut audio going to the amplifier regardless of the setting of the cue mix knob. Master? Cue? It doesn't matter. If that little square cue button is lit, then whatever signal processing is going on in that midi-log should only be going to my headphones according to the level NOT of the midilog channel fader but according to the level of the cue volume/gain knob. That is not happening. It doesn't happen my my mix knob is set all the way to cue or to master or anywhere in between. 

If I have a track in deck A and I want to Cue deck B, I press the cue button for deck B and I expect to get audio to my headphones for deck B. What I do get when I press B and there's an active song playing in A is that the volume level indicator lights go out. I get no audio.

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xxxxxx
,
What is the operating system on your computer? If PC, did you install the ASIO drivers needed to run this soundcard?
 
Have you attempted to run Virtual DJ LE? If so, do you experience the same problem?
 
Please confirm.

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Y,

My OS is Windows 7 (64bit)

Yes, I have installed the ASIO drivers that came with the disc. If necessary, I'd be happy to try and reinstall them.

No, I have not attempted to run my VMS4 with VDJ LE.

X

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X,
You can definitely try to reinstall the ASIO drivers just in case there was an issue when initially installed. 
 
Please attempt to run Virtual DJ LE and let me know if you experience the same problem with cue option.
 
Thank you,

Y

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yyyyyy,

The cue buttons work the way that they are supposed to when I attempt to use them with VDJ LE. To a point, this is really great news because it means that there is nothing wrong with my VMS4 hardware or firmware. The buttons are fine. Everything about the guts of my unit is fine. This makes me happy.

So what I think this suggests strongly is that the problem is with the midi-map for the VMS4 that shipped with Traktor Scratch Pro 2. "As-is", there's a problem.

This is really annoying. I have no desire whatsoever to try and use a "Light Edition" of anybody's software when I'm trying to play music for people.

I don't know if you can continue to help me or not. If not, lemme know...I'll take my issue to the forums and beg Freshfluke or someone like that to take pity on me and help me out.

Xxxxx

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xxxx,
I unfortunately will not be able to assist you with the mapping modification. There are other mappings that have been posted on both www.vms4dj.com and the forum.
 
Here's a direct link to a thread on the forum which contains different mappings. 
 
http://forums.americandj.com/e...27105965/m/155102696
 
Hope this helps. 
 
 
yyyyyy



So this is where I'm at now. Does anybody know what's going on? Thanks in advance for any help that anybody can offer.

M

you are in external mixing mode in traktor, are you?

quote:

DJ Jhooks

Here you go...

In Traktor go to the preferences menu
- click on "controller manager"
- in "Device" see if you already have a keyboard device set up, if not just add a generic keyboard
- then select the keyboard as device
-now you can assign whatever button on your laptop's or stand alone keyboard to trigger the sample slots.
- for example if you want to assign slot 1 on deck C, click on "add In"
- choose "sample deck" then "slot start/stop"
- now, click on "learn" then click on lets say the "1" button on your num pad of the keyboard ( this will trigger playing/or stopping slot 1 on deck C whenever you press the "1" button on your keyboard's num pad
- on assignment, choose deck "C"
- on interaction mode, choose "toggle"
now do this for all the slots to the relevant decks and after you're done click on the "Close" button or exit the preference menu.

Choose you the 4 decks layout with the sample decks.
You can now drag a sample to the sample slots and play/stop them by pressing the numbers on your keyboard's numpad.
If you want, you can assign more sample functions, it's up to you.
Don't forget to press on the "PAUSE" button first to activate the decks C or D. To return back to deck A and B press "PAUSE" button again.

Hope I explained it well,
have fun

Mr. Freshfluke,

I have tried both modes. When I'm using "internal" mode, I have these cue button issues although every other button seems to work just fine.

When I'm in "external" mode, there are other issues. For starters, if I have a song playing in Deck A and then I press play on the second song in Deck B, I get no audio. No external audio, no cue audio, no nothing. Also, my cue buttons start having their LEDs act very unreliably. Sometimes they light up when they are supposed to (when Traktor's little headphones icon is blue) and sometimes they don't.

Thank for responding btw. I really do appreciate it.

M

Actually, furthermore, much to my surprise, when I was in "external" mixing mode, Deck A's midilog fader (normally the second one from the right) wasn't working anymore and INSTEAD, I was able to control volume from the third fader.

@Mariu5: Have you tried other mappings?

Can someone who has the .tsi file please send it to me at >>> kingankit2006@gmail.com
Thanks in advance!

K3NND0,

No sir, I have not. I have a Freshfluke .tsi sitting in a zip file that I haven't cracked open and tried because I seem to remember it not using four decks and instead opting for the 2 deck/2 sample deck approach to things.

I've looked briefly at other mappings as well and the reason that I kept coming back to the the one that Traktor has shipped with it is because it seems to me that NI tried as best they could to not only make as full a use of all the possible midi controls on the unit as they could but they also tried to keep as many of the VMS4's actual physical knobs, faders and other controls performing functions that were as close to their "default" intended use as possible.

If somebody has a .tsi that seems super "vanilla" somehow and it's "exotic" that I haven't considered, I'm totally open-minded about this. I'll try it and see how it works.

In the meantime though, I'm still hoping to get this NI developed midi-mapping scheme to work.

M

quote:

Originally posted by Mariu5:
I have a Freshfluke .tsi sitting in a zip file that I haven't cracked open and tried because I seem to remember it not using four decks and instead opting for the 2 deck/2 sample deck approach to things.

the one that is downloadable is a normal 4 deck design.... my TSP2 mapping is 2 track decks / 2 sample decks...

Isn't the one that is downloadable also a TSP2 design? Or is it a TSP design?

quote:

Originally posted by Jammerizer:

quote:

DJ Jhooks

Here you go...

In Traktor go to the preferences menu
- click on "controller manager"
- in "Device" see if you already have a keyboard device set up, if not just add a generic keyboard
- then select the keyboard as device
-now you can assign whatever button on your laptop's or stand alone keyboard to trigger the sample slots.
- for example if you want to assign slot 1 on deck C, click on "add In"
- choose "sample deck" then "slot start/stop"
- now, click on "learn" then click on lets say the "1" button on your num pad of the keyboard ( this will trigger playing/or stopping slot 1 on deck C whenever you press the "1" button on your keyboard's num pad
- on assignment, choose deck "C"
- on interaction mode, choose "toggle"
now do this for all the slots to the relevant decks and after you're done click on the "Close" button or exit the preference menu.

Choose you the 4 decks layout with the sample decks.
You can now drag a sample to the sample slots and play/stop them by pressing the numbers on your keyboard's numpad.
If you want, you can assign more sample functions, it's up to you.
Don't forget to press on the "PAUSE" button first to activate the decks C or D. To return back to deck A and B press "PAUSE" button again.

Hope I explained it well,
have fun

Thanks Jammerizer!

quote:

Originally posted by Mariu5:
Isn't the one that is downloadable also a TSP2 design? Or is it a TSP design?

it's been a TSP design and i imported it flawlessly to TSP2 on my own computer.

i still didnt finish my "real" TSP2 mapping where i make use of the sample decks... *ashamed*

Freshfluke,

Very well sir, I'll give it a try.

Mariu5

the lady says: ok and lemme know how it works!

Freshfluke,

Oh. Okay. You're female. I did not know. I apologize.

Which .tsi do you recommend? I see two in the downloads section with your name on them. They appear to be almost the same except that one says "No DVS".

What is a DVS?

I feel so totally ignorant. I have no idea what I'm doing.

Mariu5

quote:

Originally posted by Mariu5:
Oh. Okay. You're female. I did not know. I apologize.

no problem

quote:

Which .tsi do you recommend?

i have to admit i didnt test the NI mapping, but i know they're usually doing very well in manufacturers mappings. i would give it a try if you werent used to anything else.

quote:

I see two in the downloads section with your name on them. They appear to be almost the same except that one says "No DVS".

they are very similar. the only exception are controls that refer to timecode. DVS stands for "digital vinyl system", like traktor scratch is. since the vms4's mixer part is analog, you can use any DVS with it. a versatility still only few controllers do have.

the main controls in both mappings are the same, like loops, cue points, fx etc.

if you dont own traktor scratch, you would want the non-dvs mapping. i included a pdf-file, where you can see what i mapped where.

hey, am i able to get the mapping tsi. file off you??
ive been looking for a good mapping that has the LED's working aswell for quite some time.
also having problems with the cue buttons on my headphones.
cheers
stew.timmins@hotmail.com

DJ Freshfluke said:
"i have to admit i didnt test the NI mapping, but i know they're usually doing very well in manufacturers mappings. i would give it a try if you werent used to anything else."

I did give the NI mapping a try. I figured that it couldn't be wrong...especially not after over a year of customer feedback that should have corrected any problems that may have existed in the initial mapping.

Everything seems to be fine but those midilog cue monitor buttons which is why I'm here in the first place.

I've just spent a little while installing your "No DVS" map but when I try and set it up, I can't get my little controller light at the top to go from orange to blue/green. Furthermore, if my controller is turned on before I initialize Traktor, the program won't initialize and instead just hangs or crashes. I believe that the reason that this happens is because I have my 4out/8out switch on my controller on 8out per your set up instructions.

Speaking of your set-up instructions, I don't know what most of them mean. The VMS4 settings are easy but as for the rest of the, I'm confused. How do I access the ASIO settings? In Traktor's Preferences panel, there's no access to that stuff that I've found.

Also, although I found the switch that in the prefs that switches between internal and external mixing modes, your documentation says "This mapping is made for Traktor Pro, using the INTERNAL mixer and the built in audio interface of the VMS4." etc. bu the set up stuff says that the mixing mode should be in external. I'm confused. If this is the "no DVS" mapping (it is) because I'm not going to be using scratch turntables, then I'm not going to be using Traktor Scratch Pro 2's functionality. Why do I care about Traktor Scratch Pro Preferences? Finally, below the place where it asks me to set the mixing mode to External, it says that the FX Mode should be "Chained as Inserts". What does that mean and where, in the preferences should I be tweaking that? Should I even care? If I shouldn't, why is that stuff even there?

M

ok ok, i see i have to update the pdf... :-S

regarding the hang: what traktor version do you use?

then: external mixing mode is right, even in non-DVS use. this is different to other midi mixers i know, so i wrote that before i tried out, obviously...

re effects: this is really sth you can find in your traktor manual. you have 2 fx modes in traktor: chained or advanced. in my mapping, the chained FX were mapped. also, the fx are used as insert FX and not send FX - also sth you find in traktors manual and preferences.

I just bought traktor pro 2 for my VMS4.1. Cannot seem to find a mapping for it. Please help!!

the mapping is installed along with the traktor installation.

import it from:
...\My Documents\Native Instruments\Traktor 2.1.2\Settings\Default Settings\Controller\American Audio

or from the respective path in your user folder, if you're on mac.