the future

I'm a retired DJ and I am starting to teach my future step son the trade. I know this is a tricky buisness and it takes countless hours of pratice to get it down. He is 11yrs old and I like to get him started right away. I would like to know if you guys would give me any tips to speed the process, or words of encouragement.
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I would start him out on Cd Players because of how easy it is to get CD's as opposed to finding Vinyl. The very first thing i would teach him is how to beat mix seamlesly, because once you can do that you will at least sound professional. There are a lot of videos out today thay will help teach him the basics. Let me know if you need a source for the videos, American DJ includes "HOW TO" videos in a lot of our gear.
Peace JB Cool Cool Cool
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[qb]The very first thing i would teach him is how to beat mix seamlesly, because once you can do that you will at least sound professional. [/qb]


untrue! do you know I beatmix maybe an average of 20 minutes for every five hour show I work? the customer could really care less that you know how to beatmix, though it is nice to know, it isn't really all that necessary.

The very first thing *I* would teach him is customer relations, get him used to speaking to customers because that is where the money is, leave the beatmixing to the bedroom jocks (that's why they are in the bedroom while the pros are out making money)

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Remember, the most powerful tool in a DJ's arsenal is his or her voice, I speak through experience, beatmixing isn't a reason for a customer to hire you for their special event, personality is everything.

Second thing I would do is buy your future step son a good microphone and teach him the basics in speaking sloowwwly and clearly, this is a "must have skill" for any professional DJ, it's what sets the "pros" apart from the "ametuers"

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Third thing; Interation, this is a skill I was lacking in for my first ten or so years in the feild, once I learned to "have fun" with my crowds, the dancefloor never clears. I could play the worst music in world, but if I am having fun with my crowd and the crowd is having fun, it really makes no difference

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Fourth thing; teach him to appreciate all genre of music and identify through age, sex, race, clothing style, body language and/or any othewr characteristic that may distiguish the crowd's tastse, granted crowds almost always vary and you can't always please everyone all the time, reading your crowd at least gioves you an idea of what the majority will respond to, get the majority out on the dancefloor, then work on the rest (interaction may also play a role with music skills)
Thanks guys, i love the suggestions and I will check out the how to videos. But I am a turntable bratt. I want him to learn "old school" first and as he masters the tables i will slide him into a couple of CD players as a graduation present. He wants to learn to house parties and then the nightclubs when he is older
DJ FOREVER

What kind of DJ do you want your son to be? do you want him to be more of a salesman for DJ Audio? Being a Mobile DJ? or DJ'ing at a college bar? If so then you should take some of Dan Leithem advice because the way you speak to a customer or a crowed is very important.

When it comes to DJ'ing you have to know how to beat mix a little at least, you don't have to be a great dj to be a salesman, moble DJ'ing, or College bar. but you do have to know the basics of DJ'ing before you can do any of that.

When it comes to talking on the mic. Being a Mobile DJ, College bar dj, or Salesman that sells DJ audio comes in handy.

At a proffesional nightclub you " MUST " know how to perfectly beat mix or you will never get hired.

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leave the beatmixing to the bedroom jocks (that's why they are in the bedroom while the pros are out making money)


I don't want to come out sounding really rude, but I don't know what kind of a DJ you are Dan, but that is NOT true at all. And that remark was probably very offensive to many DJ's out there who work hard to master the beat mixing talent. DJ's like Sasha and Digweed make $30,000 a night at nightclubs because of that TALENT, and the reason why i know this is because they spun at the Luxer Hotel in Las Vegas. Now unless your making more then that a night DAN i dont think you should be making remarks like that.

Proffesional Nightclubs needs Proffesional DJ's that can do Proffesional beat mixing, that get PAID a good amount of money for that talent.
Beatmixing is very improtant to learn in the DJ world. If your not serious about being a dj then you'll never have to learn about beatmixing. But if you are serious about being a dj, and going to want to work in proffesional nightclubs then beat mixing is one of the first steps i say every begining DJ should learn. Plus at big proffesional nightclub like in Europe ( I SAY EUROPE BECAUSE THATS WHERE I THINK THE BEST CLUBS ARE ) you do NOT hear the DJ on the MIC at all, maybe for last call, but thats about it.


DJ FOREVER

This is what i suggest you teach your son:

1st) Since he is only 11.. Start Him off with the beat mixing. have him practice a little bit everyday untill he can make a good 15 minute mix by himself.

2nd) Teach him some scratching. This is not for being a scratch DJ, but this will help him learn how to control the music while he is DJ'ing with turntables. Control is a very important.

3rd) While he is learning the above steps teach him all the music that you want him to learn, and have him practice with those songs.

4th) Talking on the Mic would be the last thing i would teach your son because of his age. At age 11 it would be a better idea of teaching him the solid grounds of DJ'ing before he talks on the mic. Besides have his voice develope first before doing that ! Smiler Big Grin
DJ Forever.

Don�t forget to have fun. Why did you start to dj? What feelings did you have about it? You need to transfer that to your son otherwise he could get tired of it all.

I must agree to Skilz about the mixing. Then focus a bit on the music. Teach him the basic of music like drums, bass, melody, beats and harmony. He would need that too. Then let him play at birthday parties and at school just go get some exprerience and get a feeling for it. It might be that he doesn�t like djing.

Wish my dad had taught me dj:ing.
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I don't want to come out sounding really rude, but I don't know what kind of a DJ you are Dan, but that is NOT true at all. And that remark was probably very offensive to many DJ's out there who work hard to master the beat mixing talent. DJ's like Sasha and Digweed make $30,000 a night at nightclubs because of that TALENT, and the reason why i know this is because they spun at the Luxer Hotel in Las Vegas. Now unless your making more then that a night DAN i dont think you should be making remarks like that.


that's great, but how much would you say the majority of club DJs are making out there? the last club I worked was A Walter Payton/Entertainment One club in the Chicago area, it was the highest paying chain of clubs in the area, I made $13 an hour as a senior programmer back in 1991, hardly $30,000 a night, in fact, I didn't know too many that *did* make more than me, but as a mobile, I do know market average.

I am slightly above market average with an average nightly pay of $900 for a four hour show, how many of your "average" club jocks make that??
before you start filling everyone's heads up with *your* ego, please remember that the majority never make it to your status, some may never even work in clubs, I work an average of two shows per week, obviously more in December, but that is an average, if my *averge nightly pay is $900 X 2 that brings me to a total of $1,800 per weekend, not bad for eight hours worth of work Big Grin

I noticed this thread was moved to the turntablism board, could you please list how many clubs (honestly) hire turntablists? turntablists don't mix, they perform tricks, can tricks pack a dancefloor? I've been down that route so I can honestly say, NO!! occasional scratching is fine, but when you start getting carried away with all the tricks associated with turntablism you've just manipulated the standard 4/4 dance beat, it's no longer a steady "thump, thump, thump, thump"

It's true there are a few that make what Skills claims per night, but that is *not* what the average club jock makes and to say that is misleading, I spent the first 10 years (83-93) of my involvement in this industry as a club jock, once I realized I could not make much more than I was already pulling in and celebrity status was only for those "lucky few" I decided to go mobile, because of my choice I have a steady income, I can purchase new equipment as it comes out and, most importantly, I'm not living a false dream

How many celebrity jocks (besides Skills) are on this site? I'm sure Rene G. will be joining us shortly but I'm willing to bet he isn't pulling of the numbers Skills claims

When mentoring someone into this business it is very important to leave your ego in the past and be truthful with the person you are planning to teach, otherwise you WILL be cheating him the learning process
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I noticed this thread was moved to the turntablism board, could you please list how many clubs (honestly) hire turntablists? turntablists don't mix, they perform tricks, can tricks pack a dancefloor? I've been down that route so I can honestly say, NO!!

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A) This thread was never moved. It was created in the turntablist board by DJ FOREVER because he wanted advice from the people in this forum to help his step son become a DJ.
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I would like to know if you guys would give me any tips to speed the process, or words of encouragement.

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This section is about TIPS & TRICKS and it's posted in the correct section of this forum.

B) Clubs Hire DJ's. If that DJ is a Turntablist it makes no differance because that person is still a DJ, just as long as he/she is doing his/her job correctly at that particular nightclub, And uses his/her talent that seperates that person from other DJ's.

C) I concider myself a Turntablist & I made sure " Club Rio " knew that about me the day i walked into there doors 6 years ago. This is a very high classy club, and Just to give you a better understanding of what this nightclub is all about read the following:
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It’s a showroom in the early evening hours, but after midnight the people become the show when the Copa Room is transformed into Club Rio, the first resort-based nightclub in Las Vegas, and still among the most popular. The floor seating is removed to create a large dance-floor, surrounded by video walls and two busy bars. But there’s more seating here than at most clubs thanks to the Copa Room’s plush horseshoe-shaped booths. Note the strict dress code...no shirts without collars, no athletic attire, no tennis shoes.
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And guess what??? I " MIX " there, and i do my trix, and i keep the dancefloor going, and the club is jamming there, and i get paid very well, And no i don't do trix, and scratches all night long, but i know exactly when to execute those trix & scratches to make the crowed happy. Does this stuff work now? I am living this route and i can honestly say, "YES".

This is the way i see it... There are 3 different types of DJ's out there. DJs who do it for the money, DJs who do it because it's a passion, and DJs who do it for the money and the love of the art. No matter what catagory you fall in, we are all doing the same thing.

Dan i see that you love what you do, and that you love interacting with your people, and i think that is great... And that is what seperates you from me, but no matter how different we are as DJ's you and I are the same. We are DJ's.
And that goes for Mobile DJs, Turntablist, Bedroom DJs, Club jocks, we are all inlove with this art. And there is no reason why you should use such terminology on other DJ's. It does Not matter who we are or how we do it just as long as the job is done correctly. As for me, I am a Turntablist / Nightclub Jock / Music Remixer / and a ENDORSER / DEMONSTRATOR for American DJ's Audio line, and i put a lot of time and effort to achieve where i am today. And i notice that you put in your time as well. And you have choosen your route as a DJ, and i choose mine.

I am exremely happy, and i hope you are as well. I would just like for you to see all DJ's for there equal purposes not for there differences.

And i hope this Thread has givin good solid information to DJ FOREVER toward helping his step son become a DJ. God Bless.
hey fellas,

Once again thank you for giving your in put on this subject and I love hearing different perspective. Only thing is, I am a turntabalist, a NightClub jock, and a bedroom dj. As for all the trix, I feel you should know them to show the crowd a good time. I never had to deal with a empty dance floor because of scratching, if done right you get a ovation from your people.

As far a teaching an eleven year old the trade. It starts out as fun and it finishes that way. If you can't have fun while you work you need another line of work.

Where I am from and the clubs I've worked at I did very little talking on the mic. Drink specials and dedications mostly. Everynow and then I would have a M.C. and play along with him/her/shim* (don't ask) and that will be a show, concert or special event.

Once again thanks for all the help and Skillz good lookin' out

Peace dj Forever
Cool
Dan,
You make a few good points, but....If you can't beat mix then you are TALKING ON THE MIC to much to get from song a to song b, which would tell me you are a wedding jock. Nothing wrong with being a wedding jock, but if you are ONLY making $900.00 to do a wedding then you are not charging enough.
DJ Forever, i think it is cool that you want to start your son on vinyl, because he can really learn the basics of DJing, beat mixing, beat juggling etc..and believe me being a DJ is something that will require practicing for the rest of his life to compete with the guy's out there now. The gear is changing so fast now that it requires a big commitment. Dan, a guy can probably make some money doing parties and things like that, but in my book if you are going to do anything in life do it the best that you possibly can, and in DJing that means scratching, beat juggling, beat mixing etc..I know that SKILZ practices about 3 to 5 hours a day and then goes to work at the RIO in Vegas.
Everyone shoud remember that what we do is make music, and making music should be fun.
BTW 2 years ago NAMM (national association of music merchants) declared a Turntable is a musical "INSTRUMENT", they did not declare it an instrument because you can play a record on it, the ability to scratch and make sounds that form music is why it is an instrument.
Happy Holidays to all,
Peace JB Roll Eyes Big Grin Cool Razzer
I stopped responding to this thread once I realized it was a turntablist thread, my apoligies for stepping on everybody's toes here.

Incidently, John, I charge what my market can bear, with yearly increases that already get questioned by repeat customers I obviously cannot charge the golden "$1,200" per 4 hour show yet, but I live comfortably with what I do make and the work is steady
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If American DJ wants to *only* market their Audio equipment to turntablists and not the "working pro" that's their choice, I don't use American Audio and probably won't ever


Dan i am going to have to disagree with you once again. And I am sorry to say this but i find your linguistic remarks very unprofessional for somebody who calls themselfs a pro.

Turntablists are professional DJ's just as much as a Mobile DJ, and the rest of the DJ industry. There is no reason why you should deliberately try to offend the turntablist industry just because it's "NOT" for you. That step puts you in an unprofessional level that everybody will clearly see if continued.

American DJ as plenty of Mobile DJ's supporting in there audio line. ADJ makes plenty of products that is made for the Mobile working DJ such as yourself. If you find this hard to believe then you should attend the "Mobile Beat Show" in Feburary. There you will see plenty of Mobile DJ's that support and use ADJ products.

Once again i will ask you to please see all DJ's for there equal purposes not for there differences.
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Turntablists are professional DJ's just as much as a Mobile DJ, and the rest of the DJ industry. There is no reason why you should deliberately try to offend the turntablist industry just because it's "NOT" for you. [/qb]


hmm, your definifition of "professional" doesn't coincide with Encarta's definition;

[/quote]
pro�fes�sion�al [pr f�shn'l , pr f�shnl , pr f�shn'l ] adjective

1. of a profession: relating to or belonging to a profession

2. following occupation as paid job: engaged in an occupation as a paid job rather than as a hobby

noun (plural pro�fes�sion�als)

1. member of profession: somebody whose occupation requires extensive education or specialized training

2. somebody doing something as paid job: somebody who is engaged in an occupation as a paid job rather than as a hobby[quote]

but you've proven your point, you are always going to be right because you "work" for American DJ, making you the "better source" for knowledge.

As for American DJ marketing toward mobile DJs? how about a CD player that doesn't skip? or a mixer built like a tank? why can't American DJ make Audio products equivilent to what all the other manufacterers are making?

[ December 22, 2001: Message edited by: John ]

Well Dan Flaming is Against the rules i did delete those comments, as for a CD Player that doesn't skip I assume you mean digital Antishock, we have Seven different models that have between 10 to 20 seconds perside. You are really showing some colors here by bringing in someones name from a DJ magazine and Totally biasing anything you might say regarding any manufacturers gear
rendering your opinion useless to DJ Times, not a good move on your part if you would like to be "QUOTED" again

[ December 22, 2001: Message edited by: John ]
Dan Leithem

Your above remarks contiue to prove me right. Once again you feel that you need to offend the Turntablist industry in a very unprofessional way. And now you you feel like you must insult, and offend American Dj's Audio products.

All i want to do is help you see a better light in the DJ industry, but you see this issue your way, and your way only. Everything i say or anybody else says about this issue is wrong to you. There really isn't anything i can say or do to help somebody who is one minded as you. All I wanted to do was help you see " ALL " DJ's as " EQUALS", between Mobile DJ's, and Turntablist's, and ETC.

Dan you are welcomed here to participate in our forum. I never asked you to leave, or stop posting about this topic, and i am sorry that you felt like you had to go, but it's obvious that you have a difficult time posting here without saying something to offend somebody. If you have such a hard time posting here without offending the DJ industry then please do not post in this forum at all.

This thread started out to help DJ FOREVER help his step son become a DJ, and wanted some tips to help him get started. You started out find untill you felt like you needed to insult the DJ " Artform. "

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leave the beatmixing to the bedroom jocks (that's why they are in the bedroom while the pros are out making money)


There really is no need to be posting remarks like that. You are allowed to post your opinion about your way of helping DJ FOREVER, but there was really no need for half of the remarks you have posted in this thread.

Throughout this whole thread you continue to say that turntablists are NOT professionals, and you continue to offend the artform with your remarks. I am here to tell you that you are wrong, and many other DJ's, and Mobile DJ's that one day will see this thread will disagree with you as well. In fact any DJ that pratice the turntablist artform are the DJ's with " TRUE " talent because of the fact they can Scratch, Beatmix, Beatjuggle, do Trix, and ETC, and ontop do the same line of work you do, only with the " True " talent of a DJ. And this will only help that DJ be a better DJ. For some reason you think turntablist can achieve this task, and they already have.

You say that i burned my own bridge, and i am going to have to disagree with you once again. I have done nothing of the sort, and i will leave this thread here for DJ's of all kinds around the world to view.

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I *personaly* wouldn't use the Audio products by American DJ, if I went into the reasons you would probably delete the thread anyway.


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As for American DJ marketing toward mobile DJs? how about a CD player that doesn't skip? or a mixer built like a tank? why can't American DJ make Audio products equivilent to what all the other manufacterers are making?


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could you please list how many clubs (honestly) hire turntablists? turntablists don't mix, they perform tricks, can tricks pack a dancefloor? I've been down that route so I can honestly say, NO!!


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I don't use American Audio and probably won't ever, but I *do* use American DJ lights and I, unlike the average hobbiest/turntablist, actually have a return on my investment, which leads to continious buying power


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leave the beatmixing to the bedroom jocks (that's why they are in the bedroom while the pros are out making money)


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I stopped responding to this thread once I realized it was a turntablist thread


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I am done with this entire site! you won't see me post here again, I'm deleting the link here and I will no longer support or recommend ANY American DJ products on any of the 9 different sites I belong to, nor will I ever use it again when Jen at DJ Times quotes me for articles. Thanks for nothing, now you can call me all the names you want


Who's Bridge is burned??? Like i said from your remarks, people will know who are the real true professionals from the real true offenders.
Sorry that you had such a personal issue among ADJ. It was nice debating with you DAN. Wink
HeY
iv got 2 pro scratch 1's and a Q-2221 mixer ... i need to kow if there are any other viedos or dvd's that can teach you how to use the pro scrath 1's ,other than the video that came with it. Also what cd's,AND/OR trax do you use to get the best scratching effect???
Look for Battle CD's that are made for Scratching. I Have one that is currently out in DJ stores by ERG (Digital Scatch Traxx Vol 1).
I also will have Vol 2 out in a few months.

Gerald Web ( W.W.W ) as one called ( Digital Scratch Tools Vol 1 and 2 ).
Thank you DJ FOREVER... I knew from the start what exactly you needed to help your step son. And people here have the right to speak freely, and give there opinions, but Dan just crossed the line. And like i said DJ's from around the world will come to this forum,and see exactly who the " REAL " professional is. I hate people who disrespects any of the DJ " ARTFORM ". I am here to help you guys.
First and foremost i'd like to apologize to all professional dj's around the world. Every once in a while a character like Dan comes around and tries to start something, something that affects everyone in a different way. Personally i don't care for his opinions or simply the fact that he was bold enough to let us see how one person can destroy the image of the DJ industry. We are a tight knit family, or should be, there should be no i'm better than you, bedroom this, mobile that, club . . . get the point?
What I'm saying is basically that we should communicate openly and not criticize each other, but help each other grow as dj's and as people, when some simple minded, thoughtless bafoon comes along and makes comments simply with the intention of stirring up our community, the best thing to do is exactly what SKILZ did, show everyone exactly how rediculous they can be, whether it is in thier comments, or thier hypocracy.
Now to get to the technical parts, in no particular order:
Mixing Seamlessly- true it is a skill that must be practiced and droned to death but is only truly noticable by those who really care or are dj's, if you are a beginner it's not entirely important.
and i beg to differ that the dj's voice is the most prominent feature simply in the fact that i can motivate people through crowd reading and playing tracks that make them remember things or just make them want to groove, i don't speak, i fear microphones, I am a "beatmixer" and i don't just mix for 20 minutes, i constantly mix different genre's, era's and formats, i do what works and if it doesn't i make it. simple as that.

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this one got me: what kind of money are you making dan??? are you just in this for the money???
i've been doing this 10 years now and not only for the money, sure it's good to take in some extra on the side, but there are people like myself who love what they do and are skilled, the bedroom jocks are typically people that want to have fun and not gig, they just want to learn the skills and make tapes, there's nothing wrong with that.

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ummmm right????? are you ok dan????
turntablists are working pro's as working pro's are turntablists, i'll be quick on this one, who puts gear through more rugged workouts?


and i know skilz posted these but you have to see them again???? i can't believe someone would actually make themselves look this dumb on a forum that anyone can see. way to be professional bud. . .

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could you please list how many clubs (honestly) hire turntablists? turntablists don't mix, they perform tricks, can tricks pack a dancefloor? I've been down that route so I can honestly say, NO!!
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I am done with this entire site! you won't see me post here again, I'm deleting the link here and I will no longer support or recommend ANY American DJ products on any of the 9 different sites I belong to, nor will I ever use it again when Jen at DJ Times quotes me for articles. Thanks for nothing, now you can call me all the names you want
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i personally do not currently own any american dj gear simply cause my gear works fine and i am happy with what i own. I would never put down a company that consistently makes quality products and a wide variety of gear that improves with each advancement. maybe you should check out the gear before you pass judgement, and typical of someone who really isn't professional at all, run away from a debate where you make us look terrible as an industry.

your opinion is your opinion, whatever type of dj you are, if in fact you are a dj, i seriously hope you don't treat your clientele the same way you treat your peers, if you do, i think it's time to look into retirement or into another profession, we want to bring dj'ing to the forefront in 2002, more so than ever, and with the junk you posted people will get the wrong impression of us as a whole.
anyone else care to jump in?????
First off I find Dan's Behaiviore offensive, I'm glad he's gone.

I am a classicaly trained musician with ten years of lessons, thousands of hours of practice, and very little patience. I've always been interested in new things, and I am just recently getting into DJ'ing.

My Background in music and music theory has allowed me to instantly integrate myself with DJ'ing and building my own beats and songs.

The best thing you could do for your little guy is to get him playing a musical instrument, taking lessons, and learning music theory.

That alone would give him a HUGE boost towards the ability to feel and interact with music, and would make music a very solid part of his life.

Classical music is much more complicated than any dance, pop, electronic, hip-hop or folk music I have ever come upon. The foundation of learning a classical instrument would give him a rock solid base to DJ from.

Violin Bowing and Scratching are also very similar, from a cognative and practical standpoint.
Way to go Skilz. I was Reading about the debate with Dan and you handled it very well and fair. Much respect to you.

I'm a bedroom DJ and damn proud of it! I look at DJing as more of a hobby to me than a career. I mix with CDs right now. After I make some dough, I want to work with both CDS and Vinyl.

Keep Spinnin!
Hey zeal16

I love the fact that u use culture of music as a base or foudation for music, lord knows I took that music appreateation class in college for something. We take rides in the car Friday night and listen the dj's on radio mix music and I have him try to pinpoint when a good time to start mixing and when to fade out of the other song. As for music class, just getting him interested into something is the first objective. Making him do all of the fundamentals is another. Thank you for your in put. Cool
ive just finished reading this complete thread and thought i must write a reply. Firstly, that quote about leaving beat-matching to the bedroom jocks cuz it aint important, all i can say is PLEASE DAN, DON'T EVER COME TO ENGLAND AND SPIN!!

You can get shot for missing a beat here, although marketing can produce a successful DJ.
(Please note that successful does not always mean good). Take Judge Jules for example, I watched him basically play infront of me for 3 hours at a club down the road from me. What a pile of s**t, he played a constant 140 bpm set, was doing double beats like they were going out of fashion and rarely even looked up - how the hell are you supposed to read a crowd if you can see em ?

I suppose you can't fault the guy, if someone was gonna pay me some major ��� (or $$$) to travel the worlds best clubs, have a blonde pop star g/f and a house in San An, Ibiza, I wouldnt say no.

Its just hard not to scream at people when they rate money making machines like Jules, higher than true legends, i.e Sasha, Corsten, Lawler(Tribal God) and King of Bedrock, J.Digweed !!!
he_bangs_the_drum_uk

Sound like u know your stuff. I've been in the club scene for a while and now I'm out. But I still spin in the bedroom. Years ago I go hold of some tapes called illegal rave music and I was hooked. The tapes had Uk written all over them. For anyone who has been in the mid-west of the United States, you know that rave music is very rare and I want my son exposed to everything. Is there anything I can look up online to where we can sit and listen so I can give him a dose of what club music is supposed to sound like.

Thank u
Forever
oh yeah.....dj Forever, while all is important, teach him to be a mini you, and im sure all will be fine...i mean technology changes and so does music and styles, but its still all the same, making people dance and have fun, and im sure you can do that...
DJ Skilz-
Reading all the forums here and especially this topic. I have to say that you did a good job handling that.

Personally,
Im a bedroom DJ for now. Im trying to upgrade my skills and come out with a bang. I started DJing since '95. It was a dream come true to even touch a real DJ Turntable. I was 10 years old when I heard my first rap song. It was Dougie Fresh and Slick Rick's the Show jam. Thats when I wanted to be a DJ. My dad would beat me when I tried to skratch with his records and I ended up breaking a needle. 10 years later, I get to see the real deal. It took awhile for me to mix, say 2 years. Then I converted over the CD. Unfortantaly my tables and vinyl got stolen. The worst thing that ever happened to me. Well, I use to spin at a few CLubs and then later I joined the military for dumb reasons. Since I left the club, 6 months later they shut down. I thought that was a compliment. Well, Im here today, I dont use American DJ Products, except when I need lighting. Im sorry to say, its that I just dont prefer them. The reason why Im here on this thread is because your(dj skilz) forum is better than the one I go to normally, which looks like that will change. I like how you talk to your people and that you seem promissing. Very good example for what you post in being professional. I have never been to VEGAS, but when I do(sometime before the summer), I hope to meet you and watch you preform. That is why Im curious to know in what you use in your DJ booth.
DJ FOREVER-
AS for giving advice.
1 dont stress your son out with the DJing
2 Teach him the respect for it
3 Teach him to be professional about DJing and the true natures for DJing.
4 Show him other styles and let him evolve from that.
5 Stick to one thing, master it than open your ideas for other things- like vinyl to digital.
6 Learn to do everything.
7. memorize music, teach him the formats by listing to the song. The counts and beats and when new beats come in the timing, ect.

Unlike me, CD turntables just came out to where you can skratch on it now. That is why Im late in learning to skratch/ beat juggle. I mastered mixing and I love it and I can do it all night. Most challenging thing for me is mixing Old school. But I can do it. After I get the skratching down and beat juggling, thats when Ill go sell myself out to the public. But for now, Im just a bedroom DJ, who use to be pretty popular in a local area. Hopefully when I come out, Ill be up to date and start developing new skills for the future.

I love doing it and I would do it for free! But that doesnt mean I will do it for free if I dont have to.

peace,
chris


One more thing. DJ SKILZ, where do you play? do you have site? and what is your schedule? What is your email address so that Ill email you. Thank you very much. I hope I dont come off sounding like a stalker.
Hey Glide,

I love "the show" it was on of my favorite songs.
when i was djing at the club i would keep it in the booth as a closing song(backgrounds) as i talked promos for the rest of the week. And thanks for the information. My son and I just started on tables. Hopefully in six months he will be ready to mix me a tape


thank you
Forever

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