Sync Hold Problem..

did you properly grid the mp3? that is the problem in 99% of all cases..

Grid the mp3. Sorry, what is that? Cheer for you help

95% of mp3s in traktor get automatically a correct beatgrid from the software. the 5% that don't and probably causing your problem should be getting a beatgrid manually.
please read the according chapter in the Traktor manual.

All the bpms appear to be correct. When you press sync it does put them to the same tempo, it just doesn't hold that sync so when you
Press play they are not auto aligned. Once
It starts doing this it does It with every track that is played.

what you mean is sync-lock.

if you're using timecode or have no beatgrid, the tracks dont get sync-locked.

you say the tracks are gridded... can you add a screenshot?

Hi.
Right basically....

One track is playing with a BPM of 120. I load another track to deck two which has a BPM of 135. I press SYNC. The deck two track moves the BPM to 120 (as you would expect), BUT it doesn't hold the sync.

It used to be that after I had pressed sync, if I started deck two playing; it would start it playing at such a time that they would remain in perfect synchronisation.

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Originally posted by hardwiredentertainment:
One track is playing with a BPM of 120. I load another track to deck two which has a BPM of 135. I press SYNC. The deck two track moves the BPM to 120 (as you would expect), BUT it doesn't hold the sync.

so - are you using timecode or not?
if using timecode this is absolute normal behavior.

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It used to be that after I had pressed sync, if I started deck two playing; it would start it playing at such a time that they would remain in perfect synchronisation.

i'm so sorry, but i dont think i understood this section...?! can you say in other words? or record a video? add a scresnshot?

OK, time for hard facts and honesty!

Oli - it sounds to me like you need to learn how to mix, and not rely on the software to do everything for you.

Hahaha. Thank you for the hard facts! The truth is that I do not use it very often, but when I'm in a lazy mood it does help just to be able to press sync and have it all lined up for you.
I will get a video across when Im next home. Infact I'm DJing this weekend so I'll film it

When you say "it used to be" what do you mean?

Was it working OK with the VMS4 then it stopped?

Sounds to me like it's more of a mapping issue than the VMS4 itself. The VMS4 buttons are 'dumb' - they'll only do what the software tells them to do (via the mapping).

Good call GroovinDJ. I appreciate you input

Also..
"not rely on software to do it all for you"...
Ummm.. everyone here is using an AA VMS4. Which works with software... So everyone here is a cheat. At least half of my gigs are on CDJs Just software is much easier and ends up with just as good (if not better?) mixes and its more fun!

since I use a vci100 or the vms4 instead of turntables and/or cdplayers I have more time to glance to all the needy women who are wetting the floor in front of the boot :P

still, i keep thinking of a not-beatgridded record problem..

the sync button is the beginning of all evil!
*just kidding*


@FUFR: *harrumph* let's keep that sexism out. this isnt a boys party here, aight?!

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Originally posted by hardwiredentertainment:
everyone here is using an AA VMS4. Which works with software... So everyone here is a cheat.

No - the first part of my post refers to the ability to mix. You can use software without relying on it to mix for you.

Users of Serato Scratch Live often have a dig at DJs who use other software because "it mixes for you" but they don't appear to realise that it's optional not compulsory.

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Posted 07 December 2010 05:47 AM
@FUFR: *harrumph* let's keep that sexism out. this isnt a boys party here, aight?!

oh, don't be such a tight ass about a joke, Fresh.
we all know why 90% of you guys start DJ'ing in the first place I'm just honest about it.

Let's go back on topic.

my apologies, Fresh. I just noticed to run into one of the few lady djs on a forum

big hug.

in the today's world, we're not only allowed to vote or drive cars - surprisingly we're also DJs!

good to be on the same page again!

cheers

Yay DJ Freshfluke
I will have a video up with the problem I am having on saturday - DJing next on Friday night.

Also, to add to the sync lock argument. Anyone can slide a slider to make the BPMs the same on two decks; that isn't where the DJing skill lies. It lies in keeping people dancing, and doing some clever mixes. All sync button does is save you sliding a slider. I am a drummer and doing a music degree, lining up two tracks isn't hard - but the sync button just saves time

You can see a video of the problem I am having on Saturday!

xx

Oli - I agree with you about the DJing skill, to a certain extent.

As I said in my earlier post though, having the software 'hold your hand' does tend to get frowned upon - and not just by the Serato users.

If you really wanted to 'save time' you could use Mixmeister or Ableton Live, where everything is all nicely lined up and synced to a master tempo, and you just press play and let it run.

But it takes all the fun out of it!

Some DJs do like to be 'hands on' so that the crowd can see that they're not just pressing buttons.

I do agree. But all the sync button does is slide a slider basically. But yeh glad we agree

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Originally posted by hardwiredentertainment:
You can see a video of the problem I am having on Saturday!

aight, waiting for that!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a3JZFC4vyG8

I wonder if the midi command in controller manager got changed from toggle to hold. it should be toggle.

are those beat gridding lines on the wave or are they just high low markers i got the f*$k confused out of me when i first started between the 2 if they are high low markers then im still on the side of the beat gridding cure

easy way to find out is load up the 2 demo tracks that come with traktor as they are most definatly grided if they synk we will know what the problem is

gee, the video is not very descriptive...

but anyways, i see the following error sources:

a) no master defined
b) beatgrid not correctly set

i cant comment more because the video is so shaky and i only see parts of the GUI and also, the tracks dont run...

can you record another one?

tis fixed! Rollieo was right, I'd managed to change it from toggle to hold. Bugger. Still, all working now; cheers for the help