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Bit of back story before i start;

Up until last summer i have always used CDJ's but opted for upgrading to just using a laptop after seeing a fellow DJ friend of mine able to fit his entire set on a laptop as i was dragging my entire cd collection round.

I opted for the VMS 4.1 as it appeared to be a good solution to my problem and it also allowed me to use my CDJ's along with it as a back up,

Heres the thing;


Ive been using this in a variety of situations and ive had a few niggles with it, which have caused me quite a bit of stress, especially when i have never ever (touch wood) had issues with CDJ's. at the moment i have the CDJ's going into the back in channels 1 and 4, with the vms acting as the mixer, connected to two speaker via the XLR connection.

Now im not sure if its the fact im using the packaged virtual dj with it (free version) or because of my laptop 64bit windows 7 4gb ram 2.4 ghz quad core processor.

but ive been having the following problems,

1.Strange half a second beat stuttering (Very rare, maybe once or twice at home)
2.tempo changing on the playing track, i don't use auto sync all done by me manually. It seems to randomly just alter the current playing audio track to the other track that im trying to beat match ready to play next, Which has made me look ridiculous when it happens at gigs.
3.Virtual DJ crash (never happened at gig, but practicing at home, has stopped once or twice, but has stopped happening since i disabled wifi,anti virus, turned off all start up programs on pc.
4. (THE WORST) has happened 4 or 5 times at a live set, the cross fader has just disabled itself mid set, meaning that as i start cueing up the other track it comes through the speakers, making the entire room look at me, i didn't even notice the first few times, as i had my headphones on playing both songs cued on mix, it was only when a friend told me after i found out.
one night, i found it kept happening and no matter what i did i couldn't change it back, meaning i couldn't pre cue my tracks, i had to blindly change track, luckily it was a middle aged party, so it didn't really matter, but if it had happened in a club situation, where i was beat matching dance tracks, it would have been impossible. I think it may be something to do with the 8out 4out switch on the front of the decks, when ever i switch it, it seems to cause issues.

5.When i start virtual DJ it sometimes randomly decides to change the virtual dj deck channels to 1 and 2 and other times 3 and 4. Which wouldn't be so annoying, but it means i have to constantly change my cdjs in the back. This happens even without me toggling the usb switches. I'm using the free version of virtual DJ by the way, so the settings tab is disabled. Which sucks....

Its these issues that have prevented me from going out with just the VMS, im still taking a single CDJ just encase it all kicks off and i need to sort it out.

I was wondering has anyone else had these random issues,
is the latest update more smooth, i dont want to update my vms if it makes it worse.
also can download the tracktor package that is now being released with the decks,
as ive used that in the past, and it feels more professional. Or can i download the vms skin set up for tracktor if i was to buy it.


Sorry about the essay, just a few annoying glitches that are spoiling an otherwise flawless deck.

Also, one more thing, i cant seem to find replacement cross faders anywhere, do they have to be model specific, or can i just stick any cross fader on it, as this one feels a bit light and sticky, and ive knocked it one or twice simply by being heavy handed. its not the cross faders fault, just me and my big bear hands getting mixed up with the mixer and decks being so close.

Thanks in advance!
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Originally posted by DJ-Price:
1.Strange half a second beat stuttering (Very rare, maybe once or twice at home)

please have a look at this thread and follow its tips - this could probably remove all your issues:
http://forums.americandj.com/e...7105965/m/5900037956

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one night, i found it kept happening and no matter what i did i couldn't change it back, meaning i couldn't pre cue my tracks, i had to blindly change track,

have you checked on the vdj forum if anybody ever experienced this?
usually this points to a wrong setup, but changing in the middle of a session...?

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I think it may be something to do with the 8out 4out switch on the front of the decks, when ever i switch it, it seems to cause issues.

usually the device has to be restarted after a switch. do you know what this switch is for?

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5.When i start virtual DJ it sometimes randomly decides to change the virtual dj deck channels to 1 and 2 and other times 3 and 4.

also strange and i have not heard about this before.

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is the latest update more smooth, i dont want to update my vms if it makes it worse.

it is always recommended to use the latest software/drivers.

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also can download the tracktor package that is now being released with the decks,

only the traktor edition of the vms has traktor LE with it - but you can download the traktor demo from the NI website and see how good you come along. the demo has all features but stops after 30 minutes.

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as ive used that in the past, and it feels more professional. Or can i download the vms skin set up for tracktor if i was to buy it.

i dont understand... traktor offers no skins.
but if you mean the mapping for the vms - it gets installed along with the normal traktor version too (also with the demo!)

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Also, one more thing, i cant seem to find replacement cross faders anywhere,

check here:
normal crossfader:
http://parts.americandj.com/Pr...2&ProductLine=VMS743

innofader:
http://parts.americandj.com/Pr...uctLine=VMS532&Qty=1
Cheers thanks for the awesome reply!

I don't know exactly what the 8out/4out does, but if it only changes after the unit resets, then it cannot be that, although i will have an experiment.

Also where do i download the latest drivers for the 4.1?

and i assumed that the tracktor for VMS edition was like the virtual DJ edition, premade to make use of the 2 decks and 2 virtual with the switch mapping etc set up. I just used the word skin, i meant mapping

And do you personally use the innofader? what would you compare it too, would you for instance say it beats the DJM-800 cross fader, that's the cross fader im most used to. Seems to be the nightclub standard.and the vms one feels a bit :S tacky

Do you know of any cheaper cross faders that are compatible or is it only the innofader or standard one?
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Originally posted by DJ-Price:
Cheers thanks for the awesome reply!

glad i could help! Smiler

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I don't know exactly what the 8out/4out does, but if it only changes after the unit resets, then it cannot be that, although i will have an experiment.

it's in the manual... no need to reinvent the wheel, have a short look - it gets explained there. (tbh, i didnt reassure myself regarding the restart, maybe i was wrong - but i was relatively sure that you had to restart)

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Also where do i download the latest drivers for the 4.1?

here:
http://vms4.adjfocus.com/downl...ownloads/vms-41.html

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and i assumed that the tracktor for VMS edition was like the virtual DJ edition, premade to make use of the 2 decks and 2 virtual with the switch mapping etc set up. I just used the word skin, i meant mapping

aight. the mapping for the vms is installed along the installation of traktor, regardless what version from 2.1.1 on (or even earlier, not sure when exactly it was put in).

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And do you personally use the innofader?

yes and it's awesome! Smiler

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what would you compare it too, would you for instance say it beats the DJM-800 cross fader, that's the cross fader im most used to.

definitely... the innofader is made to scratch - so if you're into scratching, then it is defiinitely for you!

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Do you know of any cheaper cross faders that are compatible or is it only the innofader or standard one?

if you dont like the original vms fader you dont want to have a cheaper one Wink
(btw, i dont know/think any other are compatible than the mentioned ones)

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