I would like a profile for the ADJ led "sparkle". I have an old one of these as well as some "crystals" (don't rotate) but would like to replace with dmx controlled ones.
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Is the fixture your using DMX controllable now? as in without a Switch pack? If not then you would need a switch pack and then simply use a generic dimmer profile.
Sincerely,
Sincerely,
What I have now is non-dmx. That is what I want to replace. I am looking for a profile for the new version of that light. "sparkle led". I am looking for a profile that reflects what it does in virtualizer. I know I can put in a generic light but it does not represent the tru fixture with multiple rays and rotation.
I have found a lot of ADJ profiles that do not come close to representing what it would look like on stage. I need something more detailed. I know it can be done because some of their profiles with gobos represent the true effect including rotation. I do not have a place where I can just set up a stage full of lights everytime I want to program.
I need a more accurate visualization of what the set up looks like. Some things like strobes and blinders cab be represented by a more simple profile . some lights just need more.
I understand if you personally don't have to time to create a more detailed version. I just thought it might have come up before. I know you create alot of profiles for people. It is a great effect. A cheap moving head effect, especially in multiples. I'm surprised alot of people are not using it.
If you can refer me to someone that has created a detailed profiles that is what I am looking for or if they can help me to do it myslf in the profile creator or whatever they use.
I apologize if this is coming across the wrong way. I just get a little frustrated when some profiles are really decent and some are just not even close when it obviously can be done.
Thanks for any help.
I have found a lot of ADJ profiles that do not come close to representing what it would look like on stage. I need something more detailed. I know it can be done because some of their profiles with gobos represent the true effect including rotation. I do not have a place where I can just set up a stage full of lights everytime I want to program.
I need a more accurate visualization of what the set up looks like. Some things like strobes and blinders cab be represented by a more simple profile . some lights just need more.
I understand if you personally don't have to time to create a more detailed version. I just thought it might have come up before. I know you create alot of profiles for people. It is a great effect. A cheap moving head effect, especially in multiples. I'm surprised alot of people are not using it.
If you can refer me to someone that has created a detailed profiles that is what I am looking for or if they can help me to do it myslf in the profile creator or whatever they use.
I apologize if this is coming across the wrong way. I just get a little frustrated when some profiles are really decent and some are just not even close when it obviously can be done.
Thanks for any help.
Sorry for the last response. I just realized that the new led fixture is not apparently dmx controlled. My mistake.
I would still like to learn how to do the detailed profile for siulation.
Thanks.
I would still like to learn how to do the detailed profile for siulation.
Thanks.
If your fixture is NOT DMX controllable, then you'd have to hook it up to a dimmer, switching or relay pack for on/off control.
In which case, you're not going to be able to make a detailed profile for this fixture. You're going to need to use a generic fixture. I have this issue with several of my non-DMX fixtures where I can not accurately realize them in the MyDMX 3D Visualizer. In my case, this isn't a big deal. I'm more concerned with "is it on or off".
My Mystic, Vertigo, Sunray III, Reflex, Electra, Barrel Flex and some other lights don't need full realizitions. I just need to ensure the light is on when I need it. In my case, they are dancing/ Hi-tech FX lights. For my application, it's more critical that I know that they are on.
If you want somehting more realized, I think that's going to require a lot of extra work on your behalf. How to go about that, I'm not sure.
I don't think it's worth the effort, to be honest with you.
In which case, you're not going to be able to make a detailed profile for this fixture. You're going to need to use a generic fixture. I have this issue with several of my non-DMX fixtures where I can not accurately realize them in the MyDMX 3D Visualizer. In my case, this isn't a big deal. I'm more concerned with "is it on or off".
My Mystic, Vertigo, Sunray III, Reflex, Electra, Barrel Flex and some other lights don't need full realizitions. I just need to ensure the light is on when I need it. In my case, they are dancing/ Hi-tech FX lights. For my application, it's more critical that I know that they are on.
If you want somehting more realized, I think that's going to require a lot of extra work on your behalf. How to go about that, I'm not sure.
I don't think it's worth the effort, to be honest with you.
My issue here is similar, but I don't need to create a profile. I'm using a "sparkle" type fixture as well as par cans and pin spots(rain lights). In the visualizer, I can't use the slider to dim these fixtures. Is that unusual, or is that just a shortcoming? The only control over intensity that I have is with the DMX lights.
Thanks
Thanks
Got most of this solved, I just need to keep poking around, I guess...
If you choose a ParCan as your generic, you definately have control over the dim. I made a Par38 just to have them available, and it's pretty much the smae as a real ADJ-made Par56/64/46/pinspot profile and it works just fine.
I have to spend a lot of time this week designing new lighting scenes for my upcoming show. I'm using a lot more lights than I typically would, so I need to bave some preparation.
If you're havnig problems in the visualiser with the dimming,thenit's probably due ot teh fact that you may be using the wrong slider. I do that all the time. Sure is annoying! I was making scenes and steps for my 64 LED Pros, and I use them in7 channel mode, with a blank channel between fixtures. I kept crabbing that open fixture by mistake!
I have to spend a lot of time this week designing new lighting scenes for my upcoming show. I'm using a lot more lights than I typically would, so I need to bave some preparation.
If you're havnig problems in the visualiser with the dimming,thenit's probably due ot teh fact that you may be using the wrong slider. I do that all the time. Sure is annoying! I was making scenes and steps for my 64 LED Pros, and I use them in7 channel mode, with a blank channel between fixtures. I kept crabbing that open fixture by mistake!
Plus take note, don't plug anything other then filament lamps into dimmers. You can damage the dimmer and/or the product you are plugging in. Once again, 13 Mac 700s into dimmers, each one fired.
You can plug non filament fixtures into switches however. Some dimmer packs have this option built in.
You can plug non filament fixtures into switches however. Some dimmer packs have this option built in.
I have to respectfully disagree with some CONDITIONS.
I definately agree with what you're saying, but that's not a 100 accurate statement.
Are halogen bulbs considered filaments? They appear to be to me, but hey, I'm not as up on the lighting technology you are.
ADJ manuals state in them which fixtures can and can not be used with dimmer packs. SerraAva mentions switching packs and some dimmer packs have this built in. DO NOT ASSUME that switching capability is built it. I have some older ADJ DP-DMX20Ls, and these models DO NOT support switching. The newer ones, mostly branded Elation, DO support switching if you set it on a per channel basis.
Hi-Tech FX should NOT be plugged into a dimmer unless the channel is set to switching. Why? Well, the bulb will probably be fine, but you're going to damage the electronics that run the fixture. All or nothing, OK?
Also, anything that has a DMX in/out on it should most likely NEVER be plugged into a dimmer OR a switcher.
Ideally, dimmers are intended for mainly ParCan and ParCan-type fixtures, as well as a few others. This EXCLUDES ParCans that have DMX capabilities or some sort of external control.
Switchers seem more oriented for non-intelligent lighting, such as what ADJ calles "hi-tech FX". In my case, I have many dancing type lights that fall under this category. Putting them onto switcher packs gives me control over them. The MyDMX profiles DO NOT exist for most of these lights. Let's face it, there is no proper way to adequately visualize the Mystic in MyDMX. For those, I have opted to use a generic. I'm more concerned about on/off than "what is it doing".
While you CAN use dimmers on hi-tech FX, you have to take care that you go ALL THE WAY ON or ALL THE WAY OFF.
As always, READ manuals.
Like you, I also am making tons of scenes for my event on the 25th. I really need to work on my environment today, that's my main objective. Then back to scene design. It's gonna be a LONG day!!!
I definately agree with what you're saying, but that's not a 100 accurate statement.
Are halogen bulbs considered filaments? They appear to be to me, but hey, I'm not as up on the lighting technology you are.
ADJ manuals state in them which fixtures can and can not be used with dimmer packs. SerraAva mentions switching packs and some dimmer packs have this built in. DO NOT ASSUME that switching capability is built it. I have some older ADJ DP-DMX20Ls, and these models DO NOT support switching. The newer ones, mostly branded Elation, DO support switching if you set it on a per channel basis.
Hi-Tech FX should NOT be plugged into a dimmer unless the channel is set to switching. Why? Well, the bulb will probably be fine, but you're going to damage the electronics that run the fixture. All or nothing, OK?
Also, anything that has a DMX in/out on it should most likely NEVER be plugged into a dimmer OR a switcher.
Ideally, dimmers are intended for mainly ParCan and ParCan-type fixtures, as well as a few others. This EXCLUDES ParCans that have DMX capabilities or some sort of external control.
Switchers seem more oriented for non-intelligent lighting, such as what ADJ calles "hi-tech FX". In my case, I have many dancing type lights that fall under this category. Putting them onto switcher packs gives me control over them. The MyDMX profiles DO NOT exist for most of these lights. Let's face it, there is no proper way to adequately visualize the Mystic in MyDMX. For those, I have opted to use a generic. I'm more concerned about on/off than "what is it doing".
While you CAN use dimmers on hi-tech FX, you have to take care that you go ALL THE WAY ON or ALL THE WAY OFF.
As always, READ manuals.
Like you, I also am making tons of scenes for my event on the 25th. I really need to work on my environment today, that's my main objective. Then back to scene design. It's gonna be a LONG day!!!
Halogens work off of filaments and as such are considered filament sources. You can plug incandescents into dimmers without any problems. I have done this many times before for effect lighting. The show Assassins, for example, I had a bunch of incandescents on a DP-640B that I dimmed and flashed at different points during the show.
As for what AMDJ states, anything with a motor should NOT be used with a dimmer. Anything with a ballast (magnetic or electronic) should NOT be used with a dimmer. That would include florescent, neon, and arc lights since they all need a ballast to work. LEDs should NOT use a dimmer because they use transformers, most work on 3-24 volts.
As for going all the way on/off, dimmers still butcher the sine wave all the way on and leak voltage all the way off. Switches should bypass the choke and SCR so the sine wave remains unaffected. Those Mac 700s I keep bringing up, the dimmers were on full. Hi tech FX I am sure are using LEDs, ballasts and/or motors in them in some way and/or form.
And again, issues are probably hidden as I have pointed out before. Failure rate on the dimmer and/or fixture increases, need to replace lamps more frequently, or the fixture and/or dimmer can just stop working completely. In extreme cases, things like fires and/or explosions can happen. Though these units have things like fuse to stop this from happening, some times all the best fail safes in the world don't stop the worst from happening.
As for what AMDJ states, anything with a motor should NOT be used with a dimmer. Anything with a ballast (magnetic or electronic) should NOT be used with a dimmer. That would include florescent, neon, and arc lights since they all need a ballast to work. LEDs should NOT use a dimmer because they use transformers, most work on 3-24 volts.
As for going all the way on/off, dimmers still butcher the sine wave all the way on and leak voltage all the way off. Switches should bypass the choke and SCR so the sine wave remains unaffected. Those Mac 700s I keep bringing up, the dimmers were on full. Hi tech FX I am sure are using LEDs, ballasts and/or motors in them in some way and/or form.
And again, issues are probably hidden as I have pointed out before. Failure rate on the dimmer and/or fixture increases, need to replace lamps more frequently, or the fixture and/or dimmer can just stop working completely. In extreme cases, things like fires and/or explosions can happen. Though these units have things like fuse to stop this from happening, some times all the best fail safes in the world don't stop the worst from happening.