Does the liquid sky effect work with haze, or do you need a heavier fog?
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Haze should be enough.
It really depends on only the look, but what your clients are after.
Fog gives heavy busrts here and there, so it becomes obvious when you're using it. Depending on the fogger and application, it can be a short burst(second or less) or lasting several minutes. Many people claim to be irritated by fog(well, many might sound like a high number, but it's actually rather small). I personally don't like being caught in fog, it makes me feel closed in and I feel like my breathing freezes up and it does bother my eyes a bit, but if I'm not directly in it, it's not so bothersome.
Haze, you can run in multiple ways, but most frequently it's "set it and forget it". Most poeple will NOT notice the haze and provided the machine is sufficently dampened(my HZ-300 makes a lot of noise so I put it on cloth mouse pads on each corner and it helps that hollow stage be a bit more dead, until I get a GRAMMA, which is a platform designed for guitar cab/stage mechanical isolation), they won't even know it's there until your lights want it. Even though thinner, the effect is actually more dramatic because people aren't expecting it.
Remember with hazers, you can leave it running all night, but foggers you have to hit now and then so they have to be "supervised" or else run on a timer, which might not work so well if you don't get the spacing right. You could end up with too little or too much. It's always obvious when you're hitting fog, no way around it unless you're shooting it up and behnd you from a curtain or something.
Costs are a factor too. Hazers tend to run more. Also, I recommend water-based solutions for foggers and hazers to avoid residue build up. Oil-based haze solution works better though, but for what water-based offers me in "shortcomings" is an advantage for me. As far as operating costs, it's a wash. Foggers may tend to draw more power, but both are miserly when it comes to fluid consumption. I ran my hazer all day and I barely noticed the levels dip. I can't monitor the fogger I had as closely, but it was barely used even though we had it misfire a few times on its own with sizable blasts.
For me, in my shows, I need both. I need the fog for fog effects, but I need the hazer for the ongoing things it does for not only lights, but gives the performance area a "shot on film" look. But, had I known then what I knew now, I'd have bought a hazer YEARS ago.
Just buy a quality Elation hazer and you'll be all set.
Via various offline conversations out in meatspace, I've asked for years about the ADJ and a competitor's brand of hazers, and I can't find anyone to say anything nice about either product. The Elation HZ-300 is affordable, durable and while a bit larger than I expected, is a wonderful unit that I am happy to own. I'd use it way more often.
Right now I'm on a quest for a fogger, and the only one that can meet my requirements is the ADJ AccuFog since I need that moving head. I have sceens where the fog needs to go DOWN, others UP and others at an angle.
Fog gives heavy busrts here and there, so it becomes obvious when you're using it. Depending on the fogger and application, it can be a short burst(second or less) or lasting several minutes. Many people claim to be irritated by fog(well, many might sound like a high number, but it's actually rather small). I personally don't like being caught in fog, it makes me feel closed in and I feel like my breathing freezes up and it does bother my eyes a bit, but if I'm not directly in it, it's not so bothersome.
Haze, you can run in multiple ways, but most frequently it's "set it and forget it". Most poeple will NOT notice the haze and provided the machine is sufficently dampened(my HZ-300 makes a lot of noise so I put it on cloth mouse pads on each corner and it helps that hollow stage be a bit more dead, until I get a GRAMMA, which is a platform designed for guitar cab/stage mechanical isolation), they won't even know it's there until your lights want it. Even though thinner, the effect is actually more dramatic because people aren't expecting it.
Remember with hazers, you can leave it running all night, but foggers you have to hit now and then so they have to be "supervised" or else run on a timer, which might not work so well if you don't get the spacing right. You could end up with too little or too much. It's always obvious when you're hitting fog, no way around it unless you're shooting it up and behnd you from a curtain or something.
Costs are a factor too. Hazers tend to run more. Also, I recommend water-based solutions for foggers and hazers to avoid residue build up. Oil-based haze solution works better though, but for what water-based offers me in "shortcomings" is an advantage for me. As far as operating costs, it's a wash. Foggers may tend to draw more power, but both are miserly when it comes to fluid consumption. I ran my hazer all day and I barely noticed the levels dip. I can't monitor the fogger I had as closely, but it was barely used even though we had it misfire a few times on its own with sizable blasts.
For me, in my shows, I need both. I need the fog for fog effects, but I need the hazer for the ongoing things it does for not only lights, but gives the performance area a "shot on film" look. But, had I known then what I knew now, I'd have bought a hazer YEARS ago.
Just buy a quality Elation hazer and you'll be all set.
Via various offline conversations out in meatspace, I've asked for years about the ADJ and a competitor's brand of hazers, and I can't find anyone to say anything nice about either product. The Elation HZ-300 is affordable, durable and while a bit larger than I expected, is a wonderful unit that I am happy to own. I'd use it way more often.
Right now I'm on a quest for a fogger, and the only one that can meet my requirements is the ADJ AccuFog since I need that moving head. I have sceens where the fog needs to go DOWN, others UP and others at an angle.
thanks for the responses!