Led Lights- Are they Switchable

Hey,Welcome to the forums. Let me double check this for you. I BELIEVE they should switch over. but let me confirm this with our service dept/ on Monday.
Sincerely,

Hey Jingles

Thanks very much for your quik reply..very much appreciated..i will watch closely for your confirmation on this...if you don't mind when you check if they are switchable...how the switching is done..eg: is it a button to press??

Thankyou Once Again

There is a little red switch next to the power in and out IEC connectors on the back unit. Should be able to switch from 120v to 230v with a smaller sized flat head screwdriver to flip the switch. I don't know if you have the units yet but please wait till I can confirm this setting with service before attempting anything yourself.
Sincerely,

Definately download and read manuals on any equipment.

ALSO, if the gear is being purchased FROM the UK, then the gear has been "localized" for the UK, or at the very least, 220/240v/50hz operation, which should be commpatible with your power supply.

I would be more concerned if you purchased the fixtures from a American dealer. Since we're using 120v/60Hz, if you were to plug that stuff in, you'd blow it up!

(my in-laws would send expensive TV's from the United States and computers to Vietnam. They seemed to last about 30 seconds. I resolved their computer problem by telling them to flip the power supply switch, but the TV's required a step-down transformer, which wasn't going to happen. Nothing like another $5K TV taking the big bomb!)

The only other gotcha I could warn you about is if the plugs in OZ and the UK are different. That I do not know, but that's a rather simply thing to resolve. You can either get plug adaptors or cut the end off and place proper plugs on the ends. If it was me and I had to make that choice, I'd replace the plug ends, I don't want to deal with plug adaptors getting broken or lost.

Then again, the fixture could be auto-sensing. One of my sisters-in-law recently started a 3-month study in the UK and brought over her MacBook. All she needed was a plug adaptor as the power transformer is auto-sensing. It could very well be that your fixtures might be auto-sensing.

I think you're in good shape though because you're ordering from a UK-localized fixture so you should at least have an electrically compatible unit.

Just did a little research. I assumed thatsince Australia is a UK territory, you'd use the same plugs. Nope, not the case, not the case at all.

So, on the assumption that the lights coming your way are ELECTRICALLY compatible, they won't be able to plug in. You might want to buy an adaptor for testing and then if that works, start doing the plug replacement thing.

But, wait for a more official answer before your start unboxing and plugging in and lopping ends off cables.

Hi Jingles & Chris Pickett

Thanx very much for all your comments & No i do not have the lights as yet...i will be waiting to find out if i can use them before i get them shipped from UK to me in Ozz...wouldn't want to get them here to find out its uselsss to me and a big waste of money

As far as the plugs go...yes we have 3 pins on our plugs and i believe they are different to UK..i have attached a pic of our plug & wall socket...hope you can view them ok

Kind Regards
Mike

The picture was very helpful and confirmed the confusing reading and research I was doing.

The main thing to keep in mind is as follows:

If the power standards are the same(as in the UK and Australia), then the devices themselves SHOULD BE compatible from the standpoint of the electrical system and power requirements. So, with that in mind, I feel comfortable to say I feel safe saying that the units you're expecting to have shipped should be fine.

Now, and this is just me, because I am a professional sound company, I want my gear localized. I don't purchase gear from retailers outside of my country of origin(United States).

My trivial suggestion to you is that instead of those folks in the UK shipping items to you, it would seem to make more sense to wire you the funds to purchase lights from an Australian retailer/dealer or else purchase them from an Australian dealer/retailer and have them shipping to you from that location(Australia). It should be cheaper AND you should have the right plugs connected from the start.

Regardless, wait for something more official to be stated. But, I've had a fair amount of international dealings so I feel pretty comfortable with my advise.

The unit should be switchable. If there is no red switch on the back of the unit then it is automatic switching.

Nice!!

Personally, I like auto-sensing transformers. I don't mind paying the extra money to have this feature whether I use it or not. It also cuts down costs from a product development point of view because now you only have to build for one set of electronics and 1 transformer, and also makes getting approvals a bit easier.

Again, nice!

Get those fixtures, you've been given the thumbs up by ADJ!!

Hi Service Boss & Chris

Once again many thanx for your assistance....MAYBE its the way different countries speak but Service Boss...when you say "Should" to us thats an area of slight doubt...but i will also take it that you confirmed it is ok for me to use them in OZZ because you added that the info about the "Red Switch" and if there is NO Red Switch then they will be "Auto Sensing"....So i will now take it as "Fact" that you say i can use them.....THANKYOU!...NICE! as Chris Says

Chris, I would also call myself professional in what i do as i don't do anything by halves...I say.."Do It Properly-Or Not At All", In regards to buying locally here in Australia, i would love to buy here to save all the hassles...but SERIOUSLY...take any item you like whether its lighting or Sound....TRIPLE THE PRICE!, if not more!..we always here around on radio etc etc..."Buy Australian, Buy Australian"....keep the money in the country....unfortunately when push comes to shove and we need to make ends meet when starting some new business or trying to expand into different areas MONEY doesn't go far...UNFORTUNATELY!

It seems theres no incentive at all to buy Australian....& sorry , but thats not being Australian LOL!

Thanx Again
Take Care / Be Happy
Mike

Crap, that really sucks.

Like, here, there are two big brands in the ADJ-type price category. Case and point, the non-ADJ version of the Mega Panel costs like $80 less, but I still went ADJ.

But, if you're getting nailed like that to buy Australian and "keep your money in Australia", I can't get where you'd want to do that if that's what you're getting nailed with.

Usually here, buying American may mean a percentage difference, say anywhere from 8-25% depending on the item. Sometimes more, sometimes less. Rarely a 300% price gouge.

Get your fixtures from the UK, plug modify them, and go get busy!! Buy COMPATIBLE!!

Hi Guys

I'm back again...i was just told that the ADJ Revo Sweep was replaced by the ADJ Jellyfish...the only difference is the Jellyfish has a translucent body but they are the exact same light other than this...i was just about to buy the Revo Sweeps from UK as we discussed above and i still will buy ONE only....the seller in UK don't sell the ADJ Jellyfish....so can someone confirm for me that if i buy the other 2..instead of Revo Sweeps i will buy 2 Adj Jellyfish...but i have to buy from USA...Are they exactly the same as Revo Sweeps in their way of Switching to 240volts as we have here in Australia?..i wouldn't want to buy them from USA and find they won't work here..or willl get damaged by our power supply...my plan is to get a Qualified Electrician to cut off the power plug when they arrive and put on our plug for our socket

Kind Regards

You're going to have to wait for Service to get in on this one.

I've read a LOT of manuals recently, and I've seen mentioned in the manuals some lights are auto-sensing and some are voltage specific. I'm going to take the position of "unless I cane examine it for myself, I will make no ruling on this subject on a light I don't own". I haven't run into a manual yet that talked about a switchable transformer switch, but that's how it's gone recently with the newbies asking questions about their lights. I've been checking that power issue because of this thread.

One nifty fact though is that there is a standard plug called IEC, which you've no doubt heard of. That's the socket on the back of your computer for power. If a fixture uses this connection, all you need is the appropriate power cable and you're good.

I sold a big bit of gear to India(and the jerks took 9 months to pay me, but that's another story, along with why did it sit 6 weeks on the dock after I forked over a buttload of money to overnight it as per their request). Anyhow, it came from the United States, and was un-modified. I know this gear, I have 2 of these beasts. Anyhow, all they needed to do was supply the properly terminated cable adn it fired right up. We're talking about a hardware configuration running them over $24K as opposed to a light.

And you're right, you DO NOT want to buy them from the USA if they are not using the transformer appropriate to where you live. Your worse case scenario is you might have to talk to a dealer here and be very specific about your needs(like, that power issue so you can order the right part). I see ADJ moving more towards using the IEC(and locking IEC) to reduce some of their complexity.

Adding an auto-sensing transformer adds costs, but standardizes the build, so in economies of scale, costs actually can stay low. Swithcable transformers are OK too, but again, it is higher costs than a fixed voltate transformer, plus you have to tell the user to check that switch(most don't). Likewise, putting a fixed cable onto a fixture is a cheap solution, but I'd prefer it if there was an IEC connector. This way, if a cable breaks for whatever reason, a new cable can be swapped out rather than having to be repaired. Adding the IEC socket also incurs costs as well. The cost of the transformer is high compared to the socket. Users will appreciate the convenience of a socketted plug.

Hi Chris

Service Dept..Please I need Your Help

Thanx for your reply...i hope then the Service Dept Guys will help me....pretty much all i need to know is whether i buy the ADJ JellyFish in UK or USA it will be usable here in Australia?..and when i get them i will have a Qualified Electrician cut the USA Or UK plug off & replace with Australian Plug

As far as ADJ designing/manufacturing new lights..if they spent more money to make a new light/fixture switchable/usable in say USA/Uk & Australia..or infact any country where they know they sell the products...surely its better for much greater sales of any given product for the worldwide market...as mentioned in my post earlier if i had to buy here, infact i won't buy local here because of the MASSIVE cost difference to buyin overseas & importing

Kind Regards
Mike

OK, here's how I read for the Jellyfish. Download and read the PDF manual and see how the POWER SUPPLY area on the top of Page 5 is worded. This how I interpret this paragraph:

Based on the wording of this paragraph, I interpret this to say that the unit does in fact have an IEC cable connector, which means the cable is changable. So, you could basically use a computer-type cable with this fixture. This means you won't need to have a cable modified.

The part that is not entirely clear is the part talking about "wall outlet voltage", which is really more critical. The way I interpret this part is that there are two versions of this fixture; a 120V and a 220V version. For that reason, if you're going to buy one made for the UK, it's going to work fine for you after you get the correct cable, which I'm sure is quite affordable and readily available where you live.

Based on the previous information, I don't see any red switch on the pictures on the web site, nor in the manual(even in B&W, I see no switch position), which may lead me to think these are auto-sensing fixtures as well.

The web site description states multivoltage operation, which is in somewhat conflict with the manual. Does multivoltage mean "multiple versions" or true "multi-voltage operations either via an auto-sensing transformer or a switch".

Regardless of my input, I would STILL, wait to hear from Support for the definitive answer.

Even so, let's say Support does give a defnitive answer(and they will), honestly, if I was in your position, I'd still ask the questions anyways. But, at the same point, you're buying gear intended for use in the UK, so it's going through UK channels, which means the gear is designed to be used with that voltage. If I was in your position(which I'm not), I'd feel relatively comfortable with doing things how you're trying to do them. You know anything for the UK is electrically compatible down under in OZ, just not physically compatible right out of the box. You don't need a certified or qualified electrician to do the plug chopping and re-wiring. This is an off-the-shelf cable you can use. But, even if it wasn't, if you follow the leads, you can do the work yourself with a hardware store replacement, which in some cases I've found better to be than the supplied connector. Not quite as nice as a molded cable, but at least it's more servicable going forward.

Sort of an update:

Looking at my ADJ 64 LED Pros, these have a hard-wired power cable, at least mine do. There is NO mention of power requirements, but the fuse holder has printed 120Volts near it. For that fixture, I would not attempt to plug it into anythingother than a 120V/60Hz outlet. Not sure if they are multi-voltage capable. I may also check the manual as well as the web site later on.

I'm up today at 6AM waiting for FedEx to drop off my return for repairs. I have to sign for it and the FedEx Ground delivery guy apparently likes to get up super early. I am NOT a morning person. I might like mornings if they started way the hell later, like maybe noon.

I'll check my Mega Panels later, since I can read those details easily. Those use a detachable IEC, as do my Mega Bar 50's. I can get to the mega Panels easier.

Hey Chris

While i'm reading your post & laughing at your comments about early morings starting at midday...i know what ya mean...my days are long sometimes going past 24hrs in a day LOL!

Oh! thanx alot for all your input.and sorry if its taken me a day or so to get back here...i need 30hrs in a day

Well it seems like my Revo Sweeps & Adj JellyFish are coming from the UK...but i have a question forya being i'm fairly new to these forums....Am i supposed to email the guys in the service area of ADJ to ask what is the real truth behind all this or they will read this post anyway?.

Kind Regards
Mike

I'm not sure what Service is doing over there. I do know they are working hard repairing lights for sure. I'm also fairly sure they are spending quite a fair amount of time on the phone answering questions about lights. I bet most questions aren't about AC power source issues!

I know they do read this from time to time. They recently read and replied to a thread started about upgrading some CD player American Audio makes. We'll just have to wait for them to give "the answer".

In the meantime, I feel very comfortable saying your UK-purchased lights will work properly after you either modify any attached cable or supply the properly terminated IEC cable. The thing is, you're ordering a fixture from a UK dealer, which means (s)he is getting those fixtures from stock destined for operations in the UK. So, you're basically assured compability from a power point of view

Since I seen IEC cables with all sorts of terminations(not the IEC end that goes into the device, that's why it's an IEC cable). I went to my local used electronics shop to try to get something with a UK end it so I could lop the IEC end off and put an Edison socket on the other end so I could have an adaptor cable. All I can say is I didn't have any luck. I prefer an adaptor cable as opposed to a plug adaptor because they tend to break less.