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Originally posted by DjFreestyle1:
[qb]I am going to do that soon but you can still be a REAL dj, your just a little ahead in time!!! Does the program work good???? Smiler Confused Smiler Confused Smiler [/qb]


If you were talking to me about if it works good, I don't know. I don't have it. But yes you are right you still have to take requests and talk, but it makes djing easier than it already is, because it can automaticaly switch to the next song.
excuse me Jim Wilson, but just because some of use don't use turntables and digi-decks does NOT mean we aren't DJs. You forget the MIXING part of the job eh? Mobile DJs such as myself do not do much turntablism at events mostly because ppl do not want to hear it where we go. Kids at school dances think its cool at first, but after 3 hours of it they don't want anymore, they just want to hear their music. Weddings are obviously not the appropriate place and time for that either. Not to mention most sweet 16s are not too keen on the dance with daddy being interrupted by some guy who keeps scratching his skills all over their lovely moment. Don't get me wrong, turntablism and digital turntablism are awesome, I would love to try it, but the kind of gigs we do just aren't in to that. I'd appreciate it if you would try not judge people like that too quickly, I don't think anyone on this forum would really appreciate their work being put down. Thanks for reading- DJ JayG
Here at American DJ as well as many other forums all of the artforms available in the DJ community are fully endorsed, what some of you feel as non-dj to others may appear to be gold, please refrain from making empty comments that blatantly bash forum members, honestly it is getting quite annoying, gear does not make a dj, the dj makes the best of his/her gear, simple as that. I am one of many "digital dj's" and to be honest i am ashamed that I can no longer just be a DJ because there are still some vinyl junkies that haven't realized the advances in CD technology. This is an ongoing battle, and I am sure it will never end because the naturalists think they are right, but where would we be today if grand wizard theodore hadn't "invented" the scratch??? would we be so concerned had the principles of scratching not be defined, and blending of music was the only possible method of mixing.
amen! Couldn't have said it better myself. I dont knwo why people dont think that just because your a digital dj your not a dj. Turntables may have been one of the first on the scene. How would you like it if one day the digital dj got bigger than the turntable dj & started saying you weren't a dj anymore because your stuff was so outdated? You wouldn't really like it. Keep your comments to yourself
if u dont use tables its not djing,scratching and fading and all that is real djing,playing mp3s is really boring playing one song after another without any scratching or anything,but i dont truly believe "djing"at weddings is really djing its just playing continual "golden oldies".Tables get more attention because the first thing when u think of a dj is decks not a laptop,sure if your doing actual mixes its allrite but when your using a computer to play songs? why not be a real dj and use decks or digital turntables
thank u
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Originally posted by Jim Wilson:
[qb]if u dont use tables its not djing,scratching and fading and all that is real djing,playing mp3s is really boring playing one song after another without any scratching or anything,but i dont truly believe "djing"at weddings is really djing its just playing continual "golden oldies".Tables get more attention because the first thing when u think of a dj is decks not a laptop,sure if your doing actual mixes its allrite but when your using a computer to play songs? why not be a real dj and use decks or digital turntables
thank u[/qb]


Jim, whether you use turntables,cd players, reel to reel, 8 track, whatever, if you have the ability to mix music well or even at an entry level with the hope of getting better from practice you are and will become a better dj. As for weddings being the golden oldies parties I suggest coming here, it's not like that at the weddings I have done, at least in the past 5 years, sure there are some requests for oldies but if you had any actual knowledge you would note that many couples are getting married at a younger age, hence they like newer music, also a lot of radio stations here that are top 40/pop formats play a lot of the newest r&b and dance tracks and even the "old people" love them. If you want to come out my way and see this for yourself, be my guest. Mobile work for some is just sitting there and pressing buttons, yeah right do you think everyone goes into mobile just to push buttons??? Some people think that all you need is an MC, well I can disagree, I hate microphones, can't touch 'em, I have the ability to get people to have a good time by reading the crowd, and generally when i slip something they don't expect they love it. However I do have an amazing chemistry with a few MC's where a certain look lets me know where we are headed. Don't bash mobile work till you have seen and heard all of the facts, sure some people play radio edit's of club songs, not me, the weddings I do are treated just like the clubs, the sweet 16's the christenings, the mixing is consistent, and so what if you have to drop a few oldies, as long as everyone's dancing and having a good time there's no problem.
well I am a freestyle dj and I kinda get tired of carrying all my crates every thursday, friday, and saturday.....I have 2000 records of freestyle alone.......

I really want those pioneers but if the american dj are what skillz say they are then I would get those and maybe transfer all my records to cd's..You can like fit 6 entire records to one cd which then would make it a whole lot easier for me if you get what I am saying...
I don't there's anything wrong with digital DJ's. Think about it, electronica and dance music was orginally composed by computers. Intrumental Musicians thought it was a fad that wouldn't last but look at it now. Remember "numbers", "Tour de France"? completely computerized using computer driven analog electronic devices, which in turn derived the developement of beat machines, electronic Keyboards, and midi devices. When you think about it. It makes for a cheaper way of talented people to make the music happen, as well as limitless possibilities for the direction the industry could take.
I just want to start off by saying how proud i am of you guys talking about this topic in such a professional way. Most other board we be shooting each other right about now. Since we are all talking about Turntables, and turntablism, and scratching with CD's, and Vinyl, i am going to move this thread to the TURNTABLISM section... See you all there.
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Originally posted by DJELNINO:
[qb]well I am a freestyle dj and I kinda get tired of carrying all my crates every thursday, friday, and saturday.....I have 2000 records of freestyle alone.......

I really want those pioneers but if the american dj are what skillz say they are then I would get those and maybe transfer all my records to cd's..You can like fit 6 entire records to one cd which then would make it a whole lot easier for me if you get what I am saying...[/qb]


Not to stray but what do you think is so amazing about the pioneers???
im sorry i spose i just really love tables
and also i have nothing against cd players infact i plan on getting a dual player very soon so i can make lil tracks on my com and use em with my decks,.....But i do not see the point in going to a wedding or whateva and taking a laptop?just to play music,i find it very odd or maybe its just me
thank u
Jim Wilson

There is nothing wrong with you loving the Tables. I as well love the tables too, but throught my career i found that using CD's are extremely convenient for my work, so thats why i use both.

This one guy i spoke to from Berlin told me that No dj will ever get any respect using CD's there, everybody there using Vinyl only. And alot of DJ's out here keep telling me the samething. I have heard from Numerous DJ's telling me that to really make it big you got to use only vinyl. ( Do i believe them ? NOOO ! ) I use CD's & Vinyl because i love using both and it's more comfortable for me.

This is how I see it. The reasong why I think CD's are so popular is because DJ's can make them, just burn your CD, and your ready to go, and the reason why a Digital Scratch Unit is so popular is because you can make the CD you want, and then Cut it up with your DJ NAME, or with whatever you want to create. Plus you don't have to carry 50 Crates to get to your gig. Everything i listed is extremely difficult to do with Vinyl. enough said ! Smiler
Jim Wilson-
Thanks for the apology, I admit over-reacting initially because I was angry that people were judging others so quickly. The truth is I have never tried turntables so maybe I shouldn't be so quick to comment or snap back because I shouldn't be talking. As have a huge amount of respect for what you do, I hope you feel the same way towards mobiles. Keep doin yer thing man-DJ JayG
I don't think it really matters what format of music you use - MP3, CD, or vinyl - just keep the music playing and get the people on the dance floor happy - each format has its advantages - personaly i prefer CDs and MP3 - i don't own any vinyl so I really can't compare them to the newer formats- as long as you've got a crowd dancing then any method works
right on skillz,i can understand how convinient and stuff cds are and i would luv a set of digital turntables,but i dont think they have the same fell u know,the record spinning with the light reflection,the total manual experience, i havnt used digital turntables b4 but i could imagine they wouldnt have the same feel and sound??
thank u
MusicMan-
I live in on the border of waukeesha county (i think thats how you spell it hehe!! I only live there!!!!) I am just starting to get my rig together completing (2002, Abril or March, 1-30) So I am really a minor(literally) I was inspriered by Dj Sound By Design(you know them???)
I haven't worked for anyone but I been into lighting and sound since I was 11!!! I just downloaded the ProDj program free version!! It is AWESOME!!!! go to http://www.pcdj.com/Download.asp?transaction_type=100 And try it out!!!! Smiler Smiler Smiler Smiler
B-Bop is right, you still get paid no matter what format you use. People on the dancefloor really dont give a toss what the DJ is using so long as the music is good and everyone is appreciating the overall delivery.

I think the digital DJ has a lot to live up to. The vinyl culture despite being outdated technology is still hip and can easily be associated with big name DJs, that's ok but ultimately if we digital DJs continue to prove ourselves, we will too become accepted not only for namesake but also for the digital delivery - The New Age.

ROQ
very well said guys... I to am a digital junkie...it has endless possibilities, but if it makes the "old school guys" feel any better, i bought some turn tables and am currently undergoing the long process of learning to scratch... Big Grin I think they both have there advantages and agree with DJ SKILZ about being open to all types. We have a unique opertunity given to us by the good guys here at this forum to exchange ideas about all types of dj ing and who knows you "old scool guys" might learn a new trick just like us "digital dj's" might figure out a thing or two about the heritage! oh and Dj Roc...i couldnt have said it better myself
Hi, can I just say ... whats wrong about learning all of the different methods. Think about it, if you can master all of the "weapons" then you will be one of the best. I've built up a good setup at home now, 2 Technics MK3's, 1 MK2 (usually just for accapellas), the pioneers, and I use that AtomixMp3 , all wired into the mixer.
Now I didnt buy all this equipment at once, I started off with 2 MK2's & a Mixer, bought the pioneers, sold 1 MK2, bought 2 MK3's and a new mixer to accomodate them all, then i bought atomix just 2 months ago. (lol, confused??)
What I am trying to say is that theres no point in some kid going out and spending stacks on equipment if a few weeks/months down the line they lose interest, or get frustrated with learning to beat-match. Let them progress from mp3's / cd's - and if they wanna call themselves dj's then let them, it aint harming anyone. The greatest thing about dj'ing is that you can't blag / lie about your talent. Just put someone infront of the crowd and see what they can do - if the crowd has a good time, why cant they be called a dj ?

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