Im buying some more lighting and im rather going to get a avenger II or the Aggressor which one do you think i should buy ??
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I decided to check these out. The price difference listed on this site is $20, so that's not much of an amount to really sway a decision one way or another in my opinion.
I guess it really comes down to what is your application? Both do the same thing, more or less. Both do the same amount of beams and use about the same amount of electricity. I'm guessing the Aggressor covers a larger area, and weighs 9 pounds more as well as being a larger fixture.
Both seem fairly equal in all other aspects. I've got a Double Twist, which is like a way scaled down one of these. Works good enough for my applications, but I use it in rotation with some other lights as well, so it's not more of a "featured" light as the ones you're interested are.
I have to take weight and electrical consumption into mind whenever I purchase lights. There are some lights I can not use since their draw is too high and would really hose up other things since I only have one circuit for lights and right off the bat I have 700 watts gone for the Fog Storm 700.
It's really up to you. You didn't leave a lot of informationas to your application or how to intend to use it, which I feel always plays an important factor in lighting. I think either would be a good purchase
I guess it really comes down to what is your application? Both do the same thing, more or less. Both do the same amount of beams and use about the same amount of electricity. I'm guessing the Aggressor covers a larger area, and weighs 9 pounds more as well as being a larger fixture.
Both seem fairly equal in all other aspects. I've got a Double Twist, which is like a way scaled down one of these. Works good enough for my applications, but I use it in rotation with some other lights as well, so it's not more of a "featured" light as the ones you're interested are.
I have to take weight and electrical consumption into mind whenever I purchase lights. There are some lights I can not use since their draw is too high and would really hose up other things since I only have one circuit for lights and right off the bat I have 700 watts gone for the Fog Storm 700.
It's really up to you. You didn't leave a lot of informationas to your application or how to intend to use it, which I feel always plays an important factor in lighting. I think either would be a good purchase
Well it all depends on what type of gigs you do. If you do more of the bigger types of events I would go with the Aggressor, but for the smaller ones maybe the Avenger II. It all depnds on what you fits in your needs. For me I would go with the Aggressor considering most of my evnts are pretyy large in large venures...and for the $20 buck diffeerence it would be worth it for me. Ita ll depends if you want to save an extra 20 bucks or spend an extra 20. Keep in mind tha the Aggressor is really 2 avengers in one.
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Its going to be on top of my speakers so weight is not a factor. The Types of event it will be used for is going to the larger ones, i mostly do middle school and high school dances so....
Placing on top of speakers? Well, that wouldn't work for me since my speakers have a handle in the top and it's not a flat surface.
I don't think placing a lighting fixture is a good idea unless you're doing things in stacks that are secured together and won't wobble around. I mount my speakers up on tripod stands, but I put my lights on a trussing system. Getting some sort of lighting rig might be a good idea so you can at least aim your lights a little. Otherwise, you'll just be going flat out.
Never went to dances in middle or high school, so can't relate to what sort of thing you might be doing. I have just never seen speakers as a platform for lights.
However, I am thinking about getting one of those flame bowls to put on my subwoofers. At least those are meant to be put on a flat surface and my subs certainly present 210 pounds of non-moving mass at an event.
I don't think placing a lighting fixture is a good idea unless you're doing things in stacks that are secured together and won't wobble around. I mount my speakers up on tripod stands, but I put my lights on a trussing system. Getting some sort of lighting rig might be a good idea so you can at least aim your lights a little. Otherwise, you'll just be going flat out.
Never went to dances in middle or high school, so can't relate to what sort of thing you might be doing. I have just never seen speakers as a platform for lights.
However, I am thinking about getting one of those flame bowls to put on my subwoofers. At least those are meant to be put on a flat surface and my subs certainly present 210 pounds of non-moving mass at an event.
i stack 2 speakers on top of each other on each side of my truss. i want to put them on the speakers because my truss is full of lights and i think its to heavy for the truss, my speakers are flat on top and they dont wobble there very sturdy. i think it will look good with 1 on each side.
Jess I would seriously rethink putting the lights on top of the speakers (although I have done the same in tight setups. The lights really take a beeting sitting on top of the speakers due to the direct vibration of the cabinets.
I was thinking that the lights shouldn't be stacked on the speakers due to the inability to aim or really adequately utilize them properly.
If the speakers are vibrating that much, I'd say we're looking at speakers with very poor design. I crank my speakers at most shows(non-peaking, I have a limiter in place) and while there is a tad of vibration, it isn't enough to damage anything.
I'm thinking safety and application.
My truss is getting full too. I have 3 Par38B's and a P1000 PinSpot on each T-stand as well as a dimmer pack, then an Aviator-SP8 and another dimmer pack on the truss. Centered, I have a Mystic and a Sunray III. On one side I havea Rover II, Reflex, Trilogy, and Fog Machine. On the other side is a barrel Flex, Electra, Double Twist and a Strobe.
I am adding 4 more Par38's onto the truss itself. I have to get some additional bolts and nuts and wing nuts for that application.
If the speakers are vibrating that much, I'd say we're looking at speakers with very poor design. I crank my speakers at most shows(non-peaking, I have a limiter in place) and while there is a tad of vibration, it isn't enough to damage anything.
I'm thinking safety and application.
My truss is getting full too. I have 3 Par38B's and a P1000 PinSpot on each T-stand as well as a dimmer pack, then an Aviator-SP8 and another dimmer pack on the truss. Centered, I have a Mystic and a Sunray III. On one side I havea Rover II, Reflex, Trilogy, and Fog Machine. On the other side is a barrel Flex, Electra, Double Twist and a Strobe.
I am adding 4 more Par38's onto the truss itself. I have to get some additional bolts and nuts and wing nuts for that application.
Yeah I really hate that I dropped $1000/pc, on poorly designed cabinets. That have been able to play trouble free for almost 20 years. Damn poor design. Now whenever you have an 18"sub....unless you mount it directly in concrete there will be vibration.quote:Originally posted by Chris Pickett:
[qb]If the speakers are vibrating that much, I'd say we're looking at speakers with very poor design.[/qb]
I've mounted my 2 15" subs side by side on a variety of surfaces:
Concrete, hardwood dance floor, carpet over concrete, carpet over wood(plywood, MDF and hardwood flooring), tile, a tiled dance floor(removable), even regular carpet with pad. Had them cranked.(rated at 600 watts/cab, outputs equates in SPL to 1000-watt amplifier sent per cab). Rock steady. No cause for concern about vibration.
Done big shows for some big name artists. Yes, we're driving 50K+ wattage, subs ain't moving, no vibration. No, not my PA.
Heck, even seen affordable subs and amp combinations and self powered. They aren't vibrating much if at all.
Well, with 20 year old speakers, you're going to have some design problems as engineering has changed and so has cabinet design, to improve efficiency and structurally. These days, if the stuff is still vibrating that much, you've got a serious problem with your cabinets.
Yeah, you've got time and experience over me, but I've gotten quite a bit of experience on my own. I simply don't have these problems, even with 18". Never had.
Concrete, hardwood dance floor, carpet over concrete, carpet over wood(plywood, MDF and hardwood flooring), tile, a tiled dance floor(removable), even regular carpet with pad. Had them cranked.(rated at 600 watts/cab, outputs equates in SPL to 1000-watt amplifier sent per cab). Rock steady. No cause for concern about vibration.
Done big shows for some big name artists. Yes, we're driving 50K+ wattage, subs ain't moving, no vibration. No, not my PA.
Heck, even seen affordable subs and amp combinations and self powered. They aren't vibrating much if at all.
Well, with 20 year old speakers, you're going to have some design problems as engineering has changed and so has cabinet design, to improve efficiency and structurally. These days, if the stuff is still vibrating that much, you've got a serious problem with your cabinets.
Yeah, you've got time and experience over me, but I've gotten quite a bit of experience on my own. I simply don't have these problems, even with 18". Never had.
I ordered in the adj- Aggressor for $250.00 (Canadian)I cant Wait it looks like a sweet light that will fill a gym
thanks for the help guys
Laterz, DJ Jess
thanks for the help guys
Laterz, DJ Jess