ADJ Eliminator's & MyDMX (HELP ME!) Please =)

Ok I've gotten all the other lights to work but the ADJ Eliminator scanners! Please help me I'm quite unsure what to do!

Link me to the scanners please.
Also Eliminator is an entirely different run company than ADJ. So they are not ADJ fixtures.
Make sense?
Sincerely,

No these are ADJ scanners, not Eliminators.. Their model name is Eliminator from about 97 or 96 they are DMX but for some reason will not pick up the signal.. They are black 250 halogen lights with blue stickers that say American DJ in white letters.. The sides have a blue stripe that say adj Eliminator..

Oh also they pick up each other when they are linked via dmx cable.. They also came with a matching controller that has 3 operations. Black out, Slow, & Strobe..

This is a link where others have asked about this light too..

http://forums.americandj.com/e...1000673/m/6071059605

Ohhh ok. sorry. That light was Wayyyy before my time. Let me see if i can find any manuals for it from our service team. It is NOT even in the Disc. section. You might have to give me a day or so for this. Thanks.
Sincerely,

Ok awesome! Is there a way to make the file to run this in MyDMX? And if so how? Sorry I'm new to using software to run lights..

Thank you so much! Really do appreciate your help! I'm trying to really get going with doing impressive lighting and laser shows.

Take what file and turn it into a my dmx file? I'm not understanding your post.
Sincerely,

Sorry... What I meant was, how do I make a file to make the Eliminators work? Sorry really tired and have too much to do, lol.

I have to get the manual from our service dept. And then I will make the profile for you. Ok? In theory you could just use a bunch of generic 1ch profiles.
Sincerely,

Cool thanks. Really appreciate your help!
I'll do both =) I'm sure your way will work best.
Is there a way to get a PDF of the manual? I'm honestly surprised that adj didn't keep this model they work great,& my clients love them so far.

Once I get the manual I can send you a link to download it. Try it with the generic profiles and let me know.
Sincerely,

So far no luck, but I believe my lack of knowledge
of the mydmx software is not a helping factor.
I'll keep trying.. So far I've try'd all of the scanners there are profiles for in the stock software.

you have to place the profiles where the starting address is for the fixtures? what is the starting address of the first Eliminator scanner? And how many channels is it? If you can tell me that I can tell you pretty much how to get it at least working. no one "really needs" profiles. Profiles are just there so you know what your controlling. The profile is just the middleman. Make sense?
Sincerely,

Yeah I got ya.. Address 1 to 6, 7 to 13, 14 to 20, & 21 to 27. Thats the straight shot in to them. All the other lights work fine & all 3 of my lasers hook up no issues. I also try'd single just one of the old school eliminators no go..

Are you sure they are in DMX mode? Cause if everything else is working and they are not then sounds like a data or fixture issue.
Sincerely,

Yeah I set all the dip switches to what the program said and got nothing.. This be a quagmire

Does it have a 10th dipswitch? If so turn it the opposite it is in now.
Sincerely,

yeah it has ten... I'll give it a try in the morning. Thanks I hope this works (fingers crossed)

OK, Tried changing the #10 Dip Switch to the opposite direction.. FAIL..

Could the older DMX just not be compatible?

Does anything work wiht those fixtures? Moving faders?

What did you use before?

Maybe he just needs a polarity reversing cable made up.

No I can't get them to do anything.. When I set them up at shows I run them with no duty cycle and hooked to together via dmx, They sync up and run great. All my other gear no problem boom comes on and is ready to rock.. It's like it's not getting the signal from the DMX software

http://db.tt/lEmD6oq

There is the PDf. I have yet to make the profile for this fixture though.

Thank you Jingles!

Let me know if anything in there helps.
Sincerely,

Well.. I think there's gotta be either something I'm doing wrong or somethings wrong with the lights, Not sure.

Jingles when you make a profile we'll see if that works if not I'll sell'em and buy some new scanners. Fingers crossed that I am the problem.

Have you tried a polarity reversing cable? Just swap pins 2 and 3 on one end(mark it and make another to swap it back).

Also, use a DMX terminator.

But, I think if they sync up on their own, they'll be fine together, on whatever 1-1 cable you chuck on them.

But, here's what I got from the manual:
Eliminator:
Pin 3 cold,pin 2 Hot, pin 1 grounded.

Taking another manual at random, in this case a DJ Scan:
Pin 1 Ground(same)
Pin 2 Cold(-)
Pin 3 Hot(+)

This tells me you need a polarity reversing cable, where you need to swap pins 2 & 3 at one end and MARK the cable. And I don't think that's what has been tested yet.

Some brands and some models within some brands wire the polarity backwards. Why? I don't know, but it's not quite as uncommon as we'd all like to think.

So, 2 choices, and if it was me, this is what I'd do:
Make a 2 short polarity reversing cables and mark them(one to reverse, one to put it back for chaining past these), and test after going 1 working fixture and then to these Eliminators 1 at a time(make sure they all work with it.

The other choice is to do this change within the hardware, which I don't recommend at least until you do the above test.

Thanks Chris, I'll give this a try! I'll report back this is the problem or not. I appreciate your help.

Forgive me for not remembering(I'm working 20 hour days right now, and will do so for the next 90 days), but what other DMX controllers do you have laying around?

I'm just wondering if you've got additional tools or toys you can test with, which could save hassle and frustration, but may still require building special cables. I just like to troubleshoot as much as I can ahead of time. For example, the ADJ DMX Operator has a polarity reversing switch on it, which could quickly reveal a solution to the problem.

Best of luck to you!

Got rid of 2 Chinese off brands. I had a red one and a black one..I didn't run them to these lights. Currently I have the MyDMX and thats it.

Well, the only downside to having MyDMX(or any other software solution) is you don't have the easy ability to reverse polarity. Then again, not all consoles and stand-alone controllers have that either.

Definately convert 1 cable to have 1 end reverse pins 2 and 3 for testing, go right from the MyDMX interface into the light. Then plug in the MyDMX hardware into the computer. Then run MyDMX. Mark that cable for later putting it back the way you found it.

Most people WHEN and IF they have to build a DMX polarity reversing cable end up building at least 2. They either run the reversed stuff at the beginning and all together or at the end all together. But sometimes, that's not possible because they have to put these lights in the middle of the chain, but they often run them all together. Put the reverser before and then after and it's all good.

Also, don't forget to run DMX cable. For testing, XLR microphone cable is fine.

I too have these old ADJ "Eliminator" scanners. Did you ever have any luck getting them controlled with a dmx controller? I'm thinking these units do not have dmx protocol and can only be controlled with the 3 button input controller they came with.