speaking of wich, im in a god awful place rite now... big room , all tile and compound angles. big stage all tile with a low ceiling over.. and to top it off with a huge PING is the 10x30 plate glass window on the back of the stage behind the drums.... its like running sound in a toilet bowl... ear plugs and limiters are a must in this hole.... its a friggin metal band that sux a^s too