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Reply to "Audio Triggering"

This has been addressed, addressed again and addressed some more.

I don't speak for the developer, but here it goes:

Audio triggering is NOT going to be implemented. Not in 6 months, not in a year, not ever. They have held firm on the "no new features" concept, and this would be a new feature.

If you're relying on audio triggering, trust me when I say this, you're not going to always be on the beat anyways, but it may be close.

You have choices. But the thing is that nothing is perfect.

You can use an sound-active trigger that when based on threshold, becomes a signal that can be converted into a MIDI control, typically via a drum-brain type device. The issue here is that it is the same control signal each time, so it's useless as far as a bump is concerned.

You can get lights that support a sound active function, which may get the job done, but if that's the case, why are you bothering to even upgrade your ADJ Show Designer? Oh, because you can use that sound trigger input to bump to the next scene in your chase. MyDMX doesn't do chases, but you can emulate that by having a scene go to the next scene and on and on. Ain't perfect.

Also, chances are, since you're doing the virtual DJ thing that brings up other possible issues, only one of which being "don't do virtual DJ and MyDMX on the same machine at the same time.

It isnt't the Virtual DJ software that is the problem, nor is it MyDMX, but rather you would have to toss MyDMX into the background to do the DJ stuff, and then MyDMX gets unstable. Well, maybe it is a MyDMX thing..

Another option might be to have a custom box that can increment the MIDI note generated per beat, and maybe even per channel. MyDMX can support 240 scenes(I think it's like 249 or something like that). If you designed a unit that inplemented an electrec microphone such as what ADJ uses in their sound active fixtures, and then use a pre-set EQ to key what is being listened to, then was able to have the detected trigger generate an incrementing MIDI Note ON, then you could easily get 128 scenes out of it to be sound active/audio-input style triggered. If this device THEN hooks up via USB and is seen as a MIDI device(not an audio device), the MyDMX can see it. Programming MyDMX will be a PITA though, so you'll want something that you can sweep through notes 1-128 for MIDI learn. You'll also want to OWN this hardware as well.

Another variant might be to have a microphone input with a gain control and clip light, but a pre-designed EQ curve because you're just looking for the bass beat hits for triggering. It also should support phantom power since you're going to want a condenser mic anyways, preferably an omni, and preferably a reference or measurement= mic, such as a SuperLux 999, a
Behringer ECM8000 or a dBx RTA-M< which you can get most of those for under $100 each and they would work fantastic. Once signal is able to get heard, the rest works the same.

The problem with going with something like Compu Liive and/or Compu Show(and I may be wrong) is that I don't believe those include audio triggering either. I know you can import media and then do syncronizing, which myDMX can't do at all unless you do it via timing and trial/error. But, the problem is, let's say you go Compu Show or Compu Live, do your DJ set in that platform, and chances are, at some point, the audience just won't be "feeling it" and you see a need to break it up, well, now it's not a simple task and totally defeats the purpose you were after.

I mean, let's face it, you're using the DJ software for ease of bringing up stuff. You may create your setlist, but you gotta adapt to the flow, so you may have to give your set list a kick and wing it for a bit. ALso, I bet you're also not just using the same static set for months(or years, or, and yes, DECADES), so again, things would fall apart on you.

Personally, I don't bowl, but if I did(I can bowl, I suck at it, but that's not the point), I wouldn't go during the DJ/lightshow time. It's too annoying to me and I wouldn't appreciate it, even though I am also a sound production company with lighting. But at the same time, there is a market for those who want this type of service, so it certainly isn't something to throw away. No doubt the bowling facility you're talking about has a known reputation for having this attraction.

So, unless Compu Live or Compu Show offers sound active, you're sort of stuck. The only way you're going to get this to work with MyDMX is to have some sort of custom box to deal with an audio to incrementing MIDI note on generator.

Lastly, even if MyDMX DID implement audio trigger, where does it go? Do we use an internal microphone only? That's a disaster waiting to happen as taps can trigger. Do we go with an external wired computer-type microphone? Well, then cable length becomes a serious problem as well as frequency response as those tend to be voice optimized. Do we go with an external interface, and if so, what are the chosen interfaces to support unless there is a generic interface layer to tap into, or do we use Windows to specific what the audio input source is?

I'm not saying your application isn't valid. I think it's conceptually something very useful, but at the same time, nothing I have use for. Still, just because I don't need it doesn't mean I can't see the value. I ALSO think adding this functionality would be something many people do want because it's been asked for several times. BUt then, we have other issues, such as "Well, then do we need a whole chase window and drag scenes we want to chase into it?" or does it just start at the top and chase it's way down or do you have to simply use MIDI LEARNING to do it(slow but acceptable but also a PITA). If it just starts at the top of your USER show scenes, in my case, it would start with my junker "work" scene that is constantly played with, then 3 blackouts(snap, slow fade, fast fade) and then finally into something useful. But, I could always just have a DJ-type showfile with no useless stuff in it too, so again, it can be worked around. But I think also that by adding this, we need to add a reserved scene, called BLACKOUT, that can be keyboard triggered only, bypasses all other functions, BUT also must be user programmed in case they decide "no, blackout won't be black, I need to use my wash lights to go white so people can see".

Too many ideas. I hear ya, I see what you're trying to do. I think having audio chase in MyDMX would be a life saver for you on multiple levels. I just don't see it happening. It is a good idea though.
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